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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:48 AM
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CNN Breaking - Large explosion in Tel Aviv
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 06:33 AM by alg0912
no CNN link yet but it sounds bad (10 injured, no word on how many dead according to CNN)

Reuters link: Explosion Rocks Tel Aviv, 10 Hurt, Official Says

Update - at least 15 wounded, 3 dead. 1st suicide attack since mid October.

Update - CNN corresponent now says "number of bodies on the ground." Also says this might not be a terrorist attack but a criminal attack? Evidently, there's a money exchanging bank in the building.

Update - Witnesses saw "major underworld crime figure" enter the money exchange shortly before the blast...
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:53 AM
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1. oh no
not again
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:59 AM
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2. here is the AP link...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=2&u=/ap/20031211/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_explosion

<TEL AVIV, Israel - An explosion at a Tel Aviv coffee shop on Thursday afternoon killed three people, police sources said. Emergency workers said at least 10 were wounded in the blast.


"We know there is an explosion and there are people hurt," Yossi Sedbone, police chief of Tel Aviv, told Israel Radio.

The explosion took place during lunchtime at a popular coffee shop in a busy business district.

The explosion, if a bombing, would be the first major attack on Israeli civilians since the bombing of a restaurant in the northern Israeli city of Haifa in October, which killed 21 people.>






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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:00 AM
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3. BBC reporting big explosion in Tel Aviv
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 06:01 AM by DoYouEverWonder
No details yet.

Didn't Hamas just say the other day that they were going to resume suicide bombings?
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 07:01 AM
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9. 3 Killed
And police are treating it more as a criminal investegation than terrorist related.

Link: http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGARY4XQ2OD.html
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:07 AM
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4. BBC World just said that it was probably gang activity not Palestinians.
according to their info out of Tel Aviv.
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:25 AM
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5. Maybe so...
but for our purposes let's assume it was Palestinians. That's what they do, don't ya know...
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:31 AM
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6. hmm... "that's what they (palestinians) do"
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 06:33 AM by Capt_Nemo
Do you remember what NAZI propaganda said about "what they (jews) do."

Unless you are using sarcasm...
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:38 AM
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7. It was sarcasm....
Sorry that was confusing.

And my condolences go out to whomever was injured, regardless of who is responsible...
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:47 AM
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8. You almost fooled me!
;-)
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:57 PM
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21. Are you suggesting
in your sarcasm that the overwhelming majority of bomb explosions in Israeli cities are caused by something other than Palestinian terrorism?
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:37 PM
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22. I was suggesting that we often assume that all Arabs do is bomb things...
Sorry for all the confusion...

personally I do not believe that.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:09 PM
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25. You are making yourself look foolish here.
but for our purposes let's assume it was Palestinians. That's what they do, don't ya know...

Apparently this is what someone else does, don't ya know. . . .
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:03 AM
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10. Update CNN: 2 dead, 19 wounded...
No more about the perpetrators...
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:21 AM
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11. Police says explosion was mob related
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 08:22 AM by ze_dscherman
2 killed in apparent attempt on life of underworld figure in Tel Aviv

At least two people were killed Thursday afternoon and 16 were injured in an explosion on Yehuda Halevy street in Tel Aviv in an apparent attempt on the life of underworld figure Ze'ev Rosenstein.


The explosion took place inside a foreign currency exchange booth, close to a busy intersection.

Police believe that the blast was criminally motivated due to the fact that underworld figure Rosenstein was lightly hurt in the explosion as well as one of his bodyguards.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/371073.html

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:28 AM
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13. Wonder how many other bombings in Israel have been mob related? n/t
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:21 AM
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14. What is there to wonder?
Hamas et al take credit for them as soon as possible. In fact these groups fight over who gets the "credit" for the dead bodies.

But I guess yours was a sarcastic remark also.

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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:01 PM
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19. Good question
this is the first I have heard of gangsters in Israel
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:54 AM
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15. It was Hyman Roth!
That stupid Fredo trusted him again.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:23 AM
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12. Some good that wall has done, huh?
"Wall of peace" my ass.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 11:07 AM
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16. Gangsters, this time.
Tel Aviv Gangland Blast Kills Three People
Thu December 11, 2003 08:51 AM ET

(Page 1 of 2)


By Shoshanna Solomon
TEL AVIV (Reuters) - An Israeli gangland bombing that initially raised fears of a Palestinian suicide attack killed three people and wounded more than 19 others on Thursday at a money-changer's shop on a busy Tel Aviv street.

Zeev Rosenstein, who has survived four underworld attacks since 1996, was slightly wounded in the blast that blew out windows on busy Yehuda Halevy street in Israel's business capital.

"We are declaring war against the underworld -- and this will be a war we will win," national police commissioner Shlomo Aharonishky told reporters after Thursday's blast.

In scenes reminiscent of suicide bombings that have killed hundreds of Israelis in three years of violence, ambulances raced to the area and radio stations interrupted their regular broadcasts to report on the explosion.

"The target of the criminal attack was Zeev Rosenstein and the blast occurred when he left the shop," said Tel Aviv police district commander Yossi Sedbon. "He was injured along with his bodyguards."
(snip/...)

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ZBS4BP20RQ4PACRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=3976820
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 11:59 AM
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18. gangsters
What a strange anachronism.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 11:16 AM
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17. When Will...
the helicopter gunships be brought to bear against this "underworld"? Who's up for a targeted assasination?

Jay
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RPG-7 Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:48 PM
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20. good question
How many Jewish communities with links to organized crimes are going to be put under shoot to kill closures?
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:38 PM
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23. Or....
Tall walls could be built around them... :think:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:59 PM
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24. Prolly Never, Because...
when you fight for the right to live in peace, in your own country, you are a terrorist. When you do the same simply to eliminate a pesky "underworld" competitor you are an organized criminal. Kind of has a sweet ring to it, doesn't it... organized?

Jay
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:49 PM
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26. This is also being discussed in the I/P forums...
If this had been there most of the posts would have been deleted by now...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=37967
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