Peace sign Christmas wreath can stay (Lisa Jensen won!!!)

[Hepburn]

Peace sign Christmas wreath can stay

DENVER A Colorado woman can display her Christmas wreath shaped like a peace sign after all.

The homeowners' association in the Pagosa Springs subdivision where Lisa Jensen lives has withdrawn its threat to fine her 25 dollars a day unless she removed the wreath.

...

Jensen tells The A-P she got a letter from the board last night that called the incident a "misunderstanding."

Before the order was rescinded, Jensen said she received hundreds of calls of support and offers to help her pay the thousand-dollar fine that would have been due if she kept the wreath up until after Christmas.

http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=5736572&nav=0RYb

YES!!!!!! LOL, I emailed the Chamber of Commerce, commented in the local newspaper, etc, and said how out of line Bob Kearns was! I am betting that there was a ton of bad publicity!

CONGRATULATIONS, LISA!!!!

[annabanana]

1. Well! Merry Christmas!

One for the good guys!

[mcg]

66. History of the peace sign.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Community/MrSmartyPants_view?oid=oid%3A287120
"... The peace symbol is based on the international semaphore symbols for "N" and "D" (for Nuclear Disarmament) enclosed within a circle. The first public use of the symbol was on flags and placards during the 1958 Aldermaston march (in England). About 10 years later, the symbol was adopted as a general peace sign within the student anti-war movement. ..."

[nicknameless]

74. I always heard that it was based on a dove's foot print.

[mcg]

79. It's not entirely clear, which is often the case...

when the origin of something is researched, e.g. phrases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_symbol

The "N" and "D" is part of the influence, but also
"I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya’s peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it." He also mentioned that he had intended its obvious resemblance to the anarchy symbol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_symbol


http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/%7Elcushing/addpages/PeaceSymbolArticle.html

[LetsGoMurphys]

92. very cool thanks n/t

[mcg]

80. Photo of the wreath

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061128/ap_on_re_us/anti_peace_sign_2

[Amonester]

84. COOL

+
Joyeux Noel ! :)

[EST]

2. Right on!

:bounce: :bounce: :applause:

[BR_Parkway]

3. So, he misunderstood and fired the entire board to get his way?

It's always a misunderstanding, or a 'misspoke' or something isn't it. Why can't this type of person ever simply say, I was wrong. I made a mistake. I'm sorry.

[Hepburn]

5. Yeah.....right.......

It was just a "misunderstanding" that the a-hole fired the entired arch control board that did not agree with him.

I bet that jerk has a lot of misunderstandings, right? :eyes:

[yellowcanine]

47. Actually I believe it was the Architecture Committee that got fired - not the board.

Apparently the board overruled the fascist president of the association.

[donheld]

4. It was just a hugh misunderstanding

Bob Kearn thought he could be a dictatorial homeowners assn presnit. He found out after all the bad publicity he can't do that. I'll bet his tail is tightly hidden between his legs after all the flack he caught. I hope he learned his lesson.

[ret5hd]

6. Was it ever determined if this bob kearns is the same bob kearns...

that is listed as pastor of a local church?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

57. lemme guess, evangelical, baptist or some other conservative group?

inquiring minds want to know.

[Hepburn]

58. IIRC....baptist. n/t

[donco6]

59. Must be.

Pagosa Springs is a tiny town.

[ClintonTyree]

7. Good for her!

I'm glad she wasn't intimidated by their "homeowners association". A peace sign wreath being considered as anti-American or satanic is beyond the pale of reason.
Why anyone would want to live in one of those places in the first place is beyond my understanding. Having homeowners committees for every aspect of your existence within the confines of your "community" is absurd. Only the most anal retentive could live in a place like that, in my opinion. Not being able to express an ounce of individuality would drive me up a wall.
I read a book recently by Bentley Little (he's one sick puppy, but he writes well) called, "The Association". Anyone wanting to see what a homeowners association on steroids.....and acid, looks like, should give it a read. I could NEVER live in one of those places.

[Berry Cool]

8. I wonder if Keith Olbermann will get her on his show tonight?

It sounds just like the perfect follow-up to last night's story--have her on as the #1 story, having won her battle to stick up for "Peace on Earth." (Peace on Earth? At Christmastime? What a goofy notion, eh?)

Anyway, homeowners' associations are not all like that. If they were, no one would live in them. Some are just way more anal than others. And some presidents (and not of just homeowners' associations) are way more stupid than others.

[Missy M]

18. I'm thrilled she stood up and won against the group of idiots....

and I agree with you regarding homeowners associations. I could never live in an area that had other homeowners telling me what I could and could not do with my property. I knew someone who lived in a development where they could not hang clothes out to dry, could not put up a fence in their backyard, had to have any trees they wanted to plant approved, etc. Of course towns have ordinances protecting homeowners against neighbors who might pile up old tires, old cars or make their yards into junkyards and I do agree with things like that not being allowed. But homeowners associations are ridiculous and I would never live under those conditions.

[NMMNG]

56. I've read a number of his books

In "The Store" he captures the Wal-Mart mentality and methodology eerily well.

[ClintonTyree]

91. I've read just about everything he's written....

except his real early stuff which I hear is totally lame. Bentley is definitely a little warped, I guess that's the attraction for me. "Normal" people bore the hell out of me.
"The Store" was pretty good. Again, Wal*Mart on steroids and acid. I think I have one more "Little" book in my queue, "The Burning". I have 2 other books to finish before I get to it. I'm a voracious reader, what can I say? :shrug:

[Hepburn]

9. LOL, I guess this story went international!

SNIPPED FROM ANOTHER ARTICLE:

Then came a local news story, followed by a wire-service story, followed by national news stories, followed by blog and message-board posts, and radio and TV segments, and on and on - until by Monday evening the second-most popular story on CNN.com was an article about the controversy titled "Peace on earth? Not in our subdivision!"

"It's a ... wreath that says nothing but a wish for peace," Lilly said. "And people have taken it, and they're going to use it as their shield and their sword. And they're going to fight all kinds of battles."

Jensen said she had been receiving about 20 phone calls an hour about the wreath, both from media outlets and from people offering support or donations to help her pay the $25-a- day fine the homeowners association has levied for her leaving the wreath up.

Kearns, reached Monday, also said he had received numerous phone calls. He said he was consulting an attorney and didn't want to comment on the controversy because everything he has said up to this point has been twisted in the media.

"This thing has mushroomed," Kearns said. "It's really gotten out of control."

Continuing to escalate

The situation continued to escalate - even affecting people who have nothing to do with the controversy. Monday morning, Pagosa Springs town-hall officials received an e-mail that asked, "What kind of little Nazis does your town grow?"

That prompted town manager Mark Garcia to change the southwestern Colorado town's website, clarifying that the town doesn't have any authority over the homeowners association and that the subdivision isn't even within the town's limits.

"The town wholly supports their peace-sign display and also wishes for peace on earth," the message concludes.

http://origin.denverpost.com/lacrosse/ci_4731414

Yep, that was another place I emailed, the City of Pagosa Springs, but I was not the one with the "Nazi" message. And, I did call Lisa Jensen and I did leave a message of support on her answer phone ~~ I told her to look on the DU to see others who were solidly behind her and that some had posted on getting a fund started to pay the fine.

And to Mr. Kearns ~~ if you are reading on here: IMO, you are giving out total and complete bullshit. There was NO misunderstanding and NO one twisted anything. IMO, the only thing which has anything to do with "twisted" is your freaking pea brain!

[Binka]

14. Twisted By The Media My Ass Bob

Obviously this guy hasn't gotten the memo:

HEY NAZI FUCKTARD THE WORLD WANTS PEACE YOU DAMN ASSHOLE.

Let's hope he has the sense to crawl back under his rock.

[Hepburn]

15. I pity the rock! n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

31. At the very least, Americans want to exercise their 1st amendment rights

[Renew Deal]

24. How did the fact that he fired everyone that disagreed get twisted?

Is that not true?

[Sequoia]

51. Indeed. Did they get their job back?

[Hepburn]

53. IIRC....

...they resigned when he asked them to. So...since they resigned, I think there will have to be another election, assuming they are elected, or new appointments if they are not elected.

That is just my best guess on this.

[KayLaw]

10. Good!

This is what happens when you stand up to a bully.

[Riddler]

11. Anyone care to guess what the odds are that Kearns is a * supporter?

[Hepburn]

12. More Info:

SNIPPED FROM ANOTHER ARTICLE:

None of the three members of the board was available for comment late Monday. Kearns and Jeff Heitz had their phone numbers changed to unlisted numbers Monday. (Emphasis added.)

The fight began two weeks earlier when another Loma Linda resident, Will Dunbar, put up a plate-size peace symbol atop two crossed skis in his front yard.

A neighborhood couple, Donald and Renee Haywood, took offense.

"There's a whole lot of guys left over from the Vietnam War who remember the peace sign as something very negative," said Donald Haywood, who was in the service during Vietnam.

...

Dunbar said he sees nothing un-American about his peace symbol. "I am a Vietnam veteran, and two members of the Architectural Control Committee are Vietnam veterans and one is a Korean veteran, and none of these people found it offensive," he said.

...

After the board ruling Monday, Jensen said, "We would like to thank everyone who has contacted us with moral support and offers of financial support. We are grateful to hundreds of complete strangers who felt so moved by this story they contacted us. We received calls from people who called themselves grandmas, mothers, military families, veterans, devout Christians, agnostics, atheists, a Rabbi, veterans of various wars, people with children in Iraq."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5174544,00.html

LMBO, Kearns had to have his phone number unlisted!!! I would guess that the phone calls that asshole was getting most likely were not supportive!

Makes me proud to be an American when I read the kind of support that Lisa Jensen got! Sure seems like a cross-section of the American public stood behind her.

:patriot:

[LiberalFighter]

32. Any way the fact he has an unlisted number can be circumvented?

Who would have the most impact on this guy? Is there any type of oversight or organization that has close ties to this guy that would go over and slap the hell out of him if they were the ones receiving the calls?

[Hepburn]

43. Yep...

...a lot of ways. But all are basically illegal. So...there is not way I would do that. However, I do believe that his address would be the same.

[yellowcanine]

49. I would be willing to bet that Kearns was the class snitch when he was in grade school.

Always telling the teacher about the sins of the other children until the teacher finally had to tell him to mind his own business. Tight assed little shit, he is.

[sniffa]

13. awww, that's awesome

:bounce:

[riona]

16. Peace sign history

FYI Pagosa Springs homeowners:


"Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, explained that the symbol incorporated the semaphore letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament). He later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater, more personal depth:

I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya’s peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it."

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/~lcushing/addpages/PeaceSymbolArticle.html

[Hepburn]

17. More snips from another article:

Kearns, who has taken deep cover since the firestorm over his letter erupted on Monday, told the Associated Press that he perceived the wreath to be a political statement, and apparently he thinks political statements are forbidden in Loma Linda. "Some people have kids in Iraq, and they are sensitive," he said.

...

People have offered to pay the fine. They've vowed to hang their own peace-symbol wreaths in solidarity. They are encouraging Jensen and Trimarco to stand firm.

"A lot of the calls are from military families saying they have sons or daughters in the war and they still want peace," she said. "Some people call practically in tears to say they'd fought in wars for freedom and liberty, and nobody could take our freedom of speech away."

Calls are flooding the lines at the city of Pagosa Springs and the local chamber of commerce too.

"They've all been pro-peace symbol," said Mark Garcia, town manager. "I haven't heard of any in support of the homeowners association."

...

Even in Loma Linda, support for Jensen and Trimarco is solid.

The five members of the architectural control committee resigned over Kearns' order that the wreath be removed. It all smacked of totalitarianism to them.

Loma Linda residents "are aghast," said Jack Lilly, former chairman of the architectural control committee. "Everyone who has called me has said, 'I can't believe this is happening."'

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4731177

:patriot:

[NVMojo]

19. cool!

:toast:

[MethuenProgressive]

20. Satan wins again!

:sarcasm:

[mcg]

65. I didn't know the devil is a peacenik.

"Several residents had complained, saying the wreath was either an anti-war protest or a sign of the devil."

That damn devil, wanting peace and love and stuff. Probably smokes dope too.

I wonder what the reaction would have been if it had been an upside-down cross or pentangle.

Here's something funny...
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/signs_of_satan.htm

[noahmijo]

21. Fuck.All.Homeowner's Associations

They are nothing more than the mob with no teeth. "Youse gotta pay cause we say so otherwise ya know an 'accident' might happen"

Man the day I purchase a home and am forced to be enrolled in one of those crooked organizations-lol all I can say is the prick from the hoa who shows up at my door with a clipboard for ANY reason uninvited is going to be 'forcefully' removed that's all I can say.


Everyone else is welcome though bring your kids! :)

[Occulus]

45. They should be outlawed

or at least put under state regulation.

Rule Number One should be: You cannot sign away your rights- any of them- to a Homeowner's Association.

That's the only rule I want to see enforced.

Oh, and I'll echo you: FUCK ALL HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATIONS.

[CabalPowered]

55. Easy there. Mine works just fine and I've served on the board before.

[donco6]

60. Ours is OK.

:shrug:

[earth mom]

22. Woo Hoo! Peace Rules!

:woohoo:

Homeowners associations are really the Devil aka Satan. Not only that, but they are as anti-American and anti-Freedom as you can get! I love seeing them smacked down! :evilgrin:

[Tesha]

23. Did I not tell you thiswoukld be the end result? :-) (NT)

[texpatriot2004]

25. Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men...Merry Christmas and

congratulations Lisa.

[Hepburn]

26. I have a question:

How does the list get selected for the Top Ten Conservative Idiots?

I realize that there are a lot to choose from, but if we can nominate people, I sure think that Bob Kearns deserves to be honored. I mean WHO but a COMPLETE CONSERVATIVE IDIOT would see the Peace Sign as anti-Christ or a tool of the Devil and as prez of an HOA levy a fine against someone who is using it as a part of a Christmas message for peace on earth? And, on top of that, to get to this result, he does his own version of the Saturday Night Massacre to the Architectural Control Committee of the HOA of which he is the prez.

BOB KEARNS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST IDIOTS OF WHOM I HAVE EVER HEARD. He caused a ton of people a lot of grief, made a complete and unmitigated asshole of himself. But...in the end, it truly was wonderful to see such a wide segment of the public come immediately to Lisa Jensen's support.

Oh, and one other thing ~~ BOB KEARNS IS A LIAR, IMO. When all this shit started, he stated (paraphrased) that he had consulted a lawyer and the lawyer basically laughed when asked about the Peace Wreath staying. So, if good ol' Bob had consulted a lawyer about how legal his position was when he went after Ms. Jensen, why the hell is he talking about in the recent articles that he is NOW consulting a lawyer???

Bob ~~ IMO, you are a nutcase, a neocon idiot AND a liar. Happy Holidays, Asshole.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

28. Nominate. Go to this page and look at "submit an idiot" at the top right

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10

And yes, I did nominate this shithead.

[Hepburn]

30. Thank you for the info on how to nominate...

... a Top Ten Conserv Idiot. I had not noticed that before. I sent an email nominating the shithead, too!

:hi:

[Robb]

27. Good deal. Pagosa's a cute little town

I'm glad to hear this. :)

[Mad_Dem_X]

29. Good news!

Glad to see that common sense won out in this case.

[MissMillie]

33. I was going to suggest that we all send her $25 each

But I like this outcome MUCH better!

[LiberalFighter]

34. Chamber's website has a disclaimer

***The decision of whether to allow a peace wreath on the home of a property owner in Loma Linda subdivision is a decision by the Home Owners Association's board and does not reflect the sentiments of the Town or the Chamber of Commerce of Pagosa Springs.

[LiberalFighter]

35. Town government has disclaimer on their website

TOWN HAS NO REGULATORY CONTROL OVER HOA
The Loma Linda Subdivision and Home Owner Association is not located in Town limits. Also, municipalities like the town do not regulate home owner associations' covenents, codes and restrictions (CC&R).

[Hepburn]

37. IMO, I think their statement...

...had nothing to do with any legal relationship with the HOA. It's the bad publicity, IMO, that appears to be the issue. They just could have said on their website that they had no control, connection, etc., to the HOA. However, they appear to not only say that but to be distancing themselves from the actions of that HOA as well.

I can tell ya that if I lived in Pagosa Springs and/or worked for the city in any capacity, I sure as hell would distance myself from the actions of Bob Kearns. And, particularly if I worked to get, for example, tourism business to the city, as a city manager or the chamber of commerce does, I would let it be known that the city is not in line with his thinking.

Imagine if you heard about this controversy and you were planning a vacation to Colorado ~~ would you wish to spend your money in a town that was behind doing what Kearns did? I don't think it would matter to a lot of people what the technicalities are, although IMO you are totally correct on this point, I think it would matter that they were supporting businesses in a city with a totally off the wall POV. (At least in my liberal thinking that HOA is totally off the wall and out of line.)

JMHO

[LiberalFighter]

36. The Grinch Who Stole Peace (More info explaining how board screwed up)

The Grinch Who Stole Peace

Under normal procedure, homeowners have the right to appeal decisions of the subdivision’s Architectural Control Committee (ACC) to the board of directors. However, in this case, the board over-stepped the ACC, leaving Jensen and Trimarco unsure of where to go next with an appeal. They feel they are being singled out for no apparent reason, as the restriction against billboards and advertising has never before been applied to Christmas decorations! In fact, the rule has never been applied to wooden, paper and metal signs currently on display all over the subdivision, advertising contractors, builders, realtors, yard sales, and lost or found pets. Board members Bob Kearns, Jeff Heitz, and Tammy Spezze, claim to have received “numerous” complaints and state they are committed to “what is best for the entire community.”

[jdadd]

38. Here it is...

[Sequoia]

52. Heh, heh...that man looks plugged in!

[Amonester]

85. Let's do everything we can to preserve our only one planet. YES

NO NUCLEAR WINTER
NO CLIMATE CHANGE
NO STUPID WARS
NO GREEDY MOBS

Merry Christmas :)
Joyeux Noel ;)

[jdadd]

86. Happy Holidays

:toast:

[Amonester]

88. Merci ! Thank you !

Happy Holidays to you too and to all the people you love. :)
Joyeuses Fêtes à toi aussi et à toutes les personnes que tu aimes. :)

[BoneDaddy]

39. Thank the gods

rationality has prevailed.

[MindPilot]

40. It's bizarre that we are celebrating this...

Can you believe it?! An American citizen was allowed to display a decoration on their own property.

Wow! I mean just fucking wow. We Americans are just winning new rights at every turn. Next we may be able to meet with whomever we choose in "gatherings" of people with similar ideas. Who knows, one day we may be able to have like freedom and rights and stuff.

[Hepburn]

41. You know, IMO, if Lisa Jensen...

...had to take down her wreath, then IMO, all the OTHER Christmas decorations should have been treated the same. Wouldn't want anything "divisive" setting the Christians or others with Christmas decorations on one side and the agnostics, atheists, Jews, Buddhists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, etc., on the other side, right?

:sarcasm:

[MindPilot]

48. That's for sure. Hey! Get that tree outta that angel's ass!

And the wreath is about the most non-sectarian, non-denominational, benign christmas decoration there is.

But you know how them libruls gotta politicize everything. They take a good Christian wreath and use it to mock god and his holy war on terror!

Edited to spel rite

[chelsea0011]

42. Another victory in the War Against Peace!

:loveya: :loveya: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[Norrin Radd]

89. That's a great meme you've coined:

"The War on Peace." Lets beat that drum this HOLIDAY season like they did with their "War on Christmas" inanity.

[Hepburn]

44. More info from another article:

Kearns, who said Wednesday there had been nine complaints, told an Associated Press reporter Sunday there had been three or four complaints.

...

Jensen said she did not know who had complained. She said she has had support from neighbors, some of whom she said have decorated the interior of their windows with Christmas lights in a peace-symbol pattern.

Among those hanging peace-symbol lights was the first resident to be warned about the peace symbol. He had complied when required to take down a peace sign made of a pie plate held up by two skis.

http://durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news061128_2.htm

This article is from a more local paper ~~ Durango ~~ and I noticed when Kearns was interviewed by them, or so it appears, he said he received NINE complaints and then told the AP he had received only THREE or FOUR complaints. Like I said before: IMO, Kearns is a LIAR.

I also thought it really great that some of her neighbors were putting up lights forming Peace Signs!

[yellowcanine]

46. My guess is the association board got clued in by their legal beagle that

they didn't have a legal leg to stand on and in fact were in some significant legal jeopardy if they pursued the sanctions against Jensen. I am also guessing that the fascist president who was pushing this is going to get shit canned as well.

[underpants]

50. GOOD!

The people who caused this BS need to be pointed at and laughed at.

[Hepburn]

54. BTW: I found Lisa Jensen's email addie....

...and I emailed her and gave her links to the thread from yesterday and this thread so that she could see all the support she has on the DU. If she is reading on here, I would like to take this opportunity to wish her and her husband, PEACE ON EARTH!!

Hi, Lisa! :hi:

[AspenRose]

61. One of our neighbors has a lit up peace wreath every year

You can see it from the highway, too.

They've never gotten any flak from what I can tell.

Indeed, the world wants peace.

[Charlie Brown]

62. Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth! nt

[calimary]

63. Indeed. And let's not forget a well-known and oft-used nickname for

the Birthday Boy himself, during this Christmas. Jesus (you know, that Guy who once said "Blessed are the PEACE-makers," is often referred to in Catholic circles as "The Prince of Peace."

This is good news!

[stepnw1f]

64. F* the Right Wing Nazis

control freaks

[No Exit]

81. Next thing y'know, folks'll be thinkin' Christmas is about helpin' poor people

or somethin', instead of bombin' abortion clinics an' beatin' up faggots!

It's all part of that liberal-commie plot to turn Christianity into some sorta peacenik celebration where they feed street people or somethin'. Ah, for the glory days when Jesus threw them false prophets outa that abortion clinic, and rode that tank into Jerusalem!

[Cha]

67. Yay! Colorado

Woman! Peace, Love, and Aloha!

[sonias]

68. Good for her

What the hell has happened to free speech in this country. It was only a peace sign, please.

Sonia

[Vidar]

69. Good for Jensen

[goforit]

70. Wow!!! Now thats fantastic!

[kestrel91316]

71. I betcha the ONLY one who thinks the peace sign is a "symbol

of Satan" is Kearns himself. Isn't he the pastor of the local fundie Baptist church?

He probably just want to keep perpetuating that nonsense. Not happy just to call a pagan pentagram a symbol of Satan, the fundies move on. What's next? Arrow symbols? They do look just like the tip of Satan's tail after all..............

[JohnyCanuck]

72. Some fundies claim the peace symbol is satanic in origin

I have heard that many fundies claim the peace symbol was puposely designed by pagan idolators and peacenicks to mock and insult the cross on which their savior, Jesus, ironically also known as The Prince of Peace, was crucified. The two downward sloping arms of the peace symbol were supposedly meant to represent the broken arms of the cross of Calvary to signify that the Christian cross was of no significance or importance.

[Anakin Skywalker]

73. Well, This Is Coloradah, Where They Love Their Rethugs.

I'm not surprised that they hate peace and signs associated with peace.

[likesmountains 52]

75. Not all of Colorado is Republican...and we just elected a Dem Gov..

[Anakin Skywalker]

76. OK. I Stand Corrected. But I Couldn't Help It. Too Many News Lately

about fundie whackos, etc. have been coming out of CO. Sorry. :(

[Hepburn]

77. Ding Dong the Grinch is dead!!!

From a portion of an article:

This morning, e-mails were sent to Loma Linda residents announcing that board members Bob Kearns, Tammy Spezze and Jeff Heitz had resigned.

"We need to get our subdivision back in gear now," said Loma Linda resident Nancy Dunbar, who had to remove a wooden peace sign from in front of her home the week before Thanksgiving.

She said several members of association's architectural-control committee, who had resigned earlier in protest the board's actions, are working to form an ad hoc board before association elections next month.

http://test.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_4733752

Man, a peace sign on a front door had to be removed??? Wow! That board was, IMO, a bunch of neo-Nazis. I bet 99% of that development is glad those assholes are gone!

[Hepburn]

78. A bit more info from another snip of an article:

Bill Trimarco told 9NEWS that late Monday night they found a letter on the front door of the home. In the letter, the homeowners association apologized for the misunderstanding and told the residents they did not have to take down the wreath.

Trimarco said he is grateful for the amount of support they have received from around the World. He told 9NEWS support has come from South America, troops in Baghdad and the Netherlands.


http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=2ee9eac9-0abe-421a-00a0-4dd88030a228&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

I think that is wonderful that they got support from some of the troops in Iraq. Says a lot to me how misplaced some of the stupid complaints were that KEARNS alleged said he got.

[susanna]

82. Good news... n/t

[brettdale]

83. Send this to John Gibson

He goes on about the war on Xmas, what could be more in the spirit of Xmas than a Xmas wreath made out to look like a Peace sign.

[email protected]

[ribrepin]

87. Love how Bob Kearns assumed parents of children in Iraq

wouldn't be interested in peace.

These chuckle-heads think people fighting this war are some other species. Mom, Dad and junior just love war and are insulted if someone wants peace. They have no idea how the other half lives.

[VenusRising]

90. I'm so happy for her!

Some HOA can be such nosy busy-bodies with no life of their own. I'm glad to see that she stood up for what she believed in and had enough support that the HOA had to back down. It sucks when people call your house to tell you how horrible you are, and I'm sure that's putting it nicely.