If SARS Hits U.S., Quarantine Could Too

[RedSock]

If SARS Hits U.S., Quarantine Could Too
NYT, By DAVID TULLER

SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 8 — As the health officer of Alameda County, Dr. Anthony Iton is prepared to make tough choices if SARS re-emerges this winter or spring, as many infectious disease experts fear.

The county, just across the bay from here, has identified two large buildings where, if voluntary steps to quell an epidemic were to fail, the authorities could sequester not just people who were sick but also people who might have been exposed to the SARS virus, Dr. Iton said.

The buildings, he said, could house up to 100 people and could be guarded to keep anyone from leaving.

"It's a virtual certainty that sometime in the near future we will see a SARS-like event in the United States, a highly communicable infectious disease that will require mass quarantine or isolation," Dr. Iton said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/09/science/09SARS.html

[DUreader]

1. Hmm... Quarantine Sick People with Those who May have been Exposed?

[RedSock]

2. round 'em up

a virtual certainty that something will happen that will require mass isolation ....

.... makes me feel reeeal good .........

[BeHereNow]

3. NOW I am convinced...

They are planning to use manufactued viruses to
control the masses.
Remember the Wayne Madsen essay on this?
Remember the PNAC doc that refers to biochemical
weapons as a politically useful tool?

I think it is time to GET OUT.
This really scares me.
No, I mean REALLY sacres me.
BHN

[Whoa_Nelly]

4. Wayne Madsen?

Were you referring to this From The Wilderness essay?
Good call, and an excellent read:


05/09/03 A SPECIAL FTW INVESTIGATION:

SARS: Combining Biological and Economic Warfare

-- by Michael Ruppert and Wayne Madsen. This 21-page report indicates that SARS is likely manmade and definitely man-manipulated for political purposes like the containment of China and the implementation of social control in America. But there are also SARS links to the deaths of as many as 10 world-class microbiologists since 9/11. These scientists specialized in techniques necessary for the creation of a hybrid coronavirus. The evidence suggests that the evolution of the disease, how it mutates, and how it is handled warrant very close attention. It would not be the first time America has used bioeconomic warfare.

http://www.usa-exile.org/news/0305/10/SARS.html

Click here to read a free summary of this special investigation:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/050903_SARS_summary.html

[BeHereNow]

5. Yup- that's the one.

I do not like the sound of this news at ALL.
The economy is tanking.
People are losing their jobs, houses, etc...
TPTB KNOW it is a matter of time before
people start to riot, and so, what better way
to introduce forced containment- a health crisis
will pave the way for the jackboots waiting in the wings.
We saw clearly what they were capable of in Florida
a few weeks ago- I think they are using the protests
a reheasal for this.
Truly, I do.
BHN

[unbrand]

6. Not sure if this is from the same place, but...

Below is a link to an article about how the blackout in the Northeast was a military test operation. F-ing frightening:

<snip>

Wayne Madsen has revealed National Security Presidential Directive 16 (PD-16) gave the president authority to wage cyber-warfare against other countries, including bringing down their power grids. Michael pointed out we do not know if any elements of PD-16 pertain to North America.  

<snip>

http://www.prisonplanet.com/120803blackout.html

[BeHereNow]

7. I'd say...

they have been rehearsing several scenarios
in preparation for calling full blown police state
status here in the land of the free.
Oh folks, when you connect the many dots,
this does not bode well for the future.
BHN

[frank frankly]

11. you're right, especially since SARS doesn't exist

check it out

[drfemoe]

17. who didn't know

that the earlier 'epidemic' was a practice drill?

edit: there are a number of non-conventional methods for the prevention and treatment of sars AND the "flu".
I am strongly opposed to flu shots (vaccines).

[ConcernedCanuk]

8. virtual certainty that sometime . . . . we will see a SARS-like event

. . virtual certainty that sometime in the near future we will see a SARS-like event

. . count on it !!

. . and with over 40 million USA citizens with NO Health coverage

. . it will spread like wildfire

. . But - can't "waste" them tax-dollars on HealthCare !!

. . Da BFEE needs them $$$ for their WarMachine !!

By the way - 40 million people - that's 25% MORE than all of Canada

and almost TWICE the population of Iraq

hmmm

Murikka the "great" ain't lookin' so good

[dixielib]

9. Hate to say it...

but a quanatine would be in order. Been in Infection Control for 5 years and that's the way they would have to contain a SARS or other highly infectious disease. CNN was reporting on MRSA (methcillin resistant staph aureus) being a community bug now. Just a couple of years ago you only saw it in hospitals. Before CNN did away with it's message boards a year ago, there was a wonderful, informative discussion about bioterriorism. We really need to pick up that thread here and share what we know.

[HereSince1628]

12. Quarantine needn't mean incarceration in guarded buildings.

I'll grant you that monitoring and caring for people is easier if they are in one place...we call those places hospitals.

[frank frankly]

10. see, but does SARS actually exist?

survey says NO.

the World Health Organization will greenlight the police state.

unless we stop these fascists.

[sam sarrha]

13. probably right about election time...

[BeHereNow]

14. You got that right-

I predict BEFORE election time,
but most certainly around there.
BHN

[frank frankly]

15. here's a link if you want to make sure SARS is real

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/040603_sars_scam.html

[Systematic Chaos]

16. Dr. Leonard Horowitz is one amazing individual

I've read his book, "Emerging Viruses", and while there is no 100% concrete proof offered in it that AIDS is indeed a man-made organism, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence presented that simply cannot be ignored. I have believed for a long time that AIDS had to be planted. I mean, if it was truly a "gay man's" disease, then why the hell did it sprout up so fast in New York and so much more slowly in San Francisco? No, that is just bulls**t that was used as a scapegoat to help keep the masses afraid and prejudiced. Just one argument backed up with a lot of research contained within his book. But I digress....

The link above is yet another fascinating essay by Dr. Horowitz and I hope many here at DU will read it.

[Snow]

18. I read Horowitz's essay,

and found the writing style very odd - difficult to read, odd phrasing. Some of his hypotheses are attractive possibilities, and I'm inclined to consider them. However, he doesn't present alternative explanations at all - it's standard practice in scientific argument to say "here's what I think, and other opinions are such-and-such -" and then you either shoot down the other arguments, or you say that maybe they have merit too - something like that. For example, I don't know how many of you have seen your typical Asian farm community market day. All sorts of animals are brought together in close quarters, caged or restrained tightly, in stress and not necessarily all healthy. In fact, if you're a sensible small raiser of chickens or pigs, for instance, you want to get any animal that looks like it might be getting sick to market and slaughter pretty quick. So, a good place to pass disease around. Flu viruses typically begin in fowl or swine and are passed to humans who are in close contact - at least sharing the same air. So it suprises me not at all that a nasty virus attacking humans comes out of places like Asian farm markets. I don't see that possibility mentioned at all by Dr. Horowitz, just as an example, and to my mind that lack undermines his credibility.

[pinto]

20. I understand SARS may be related to avian viruses common Asia.

And your point is well taken. Crowding, high turnover, and weakened hosts (due to caging) create an ideal climate for multplication and spread of viral disease.

[Snow]

21. Ooops - I looked a little further.

Dr. Horowitz does not have many articles listed in PubMed and most of those are not peer-reviewed, but opinion pieces, education pieces, letters to the editor. Further, in the web article cited above, I think he implies at the end that he's on faculty at Harvard. This does not appear to be the case; rather he heads up an outfit called Tetrahedron Inc, with a .org website, based in Sand Point Idaho. Sand Point is not a bastion of liberal, progressive values, although I know some Quakers who keep a small Friends' Meeting going there. Further, Dr. Horowitz has quite a number of items for sale that build upon his writings. This raises some questions of ethics, conflict of interest, in what he is writing. I would take this guy's writings with quite a few grains of salt. He may have a good case, be outside the medical establishment and so on, but he appears solidly within the mercantile establishment at least.

[pinto]

22. thanks for the post. Peer review is still the standard...eom

[pinto]

19. in response to HIV emergence in NY City vs SF:

Much more efficiently spread via shared needles than sex, higher prevalence of injection drug use in NY than SF, possibly an earlier more virulent strain (HIV mutates rapidly). But I agree, Horowitz' writing is interesting.

edit for clarity