China executes 27 on anti-drug day

[951-Riverside]

Beijing - China has executed at least 27 people for drug trafficking and sentenced up to 12 others to death for the same offence to mark international anti-drug day on June 26, state press reported on Tuesday.

In southern Kunming city on Monday, 10 convicted drug traffickers were paraded in front of the public before being sent to execution grounds where their death sentences were carried out, the Yunnan Daily reported.

"As Kunming is very close to the golden triangle, our city has become the battleground in our nation's war against drugs," the paper quoted Vice Mayor Tian Yunxiang as saying at the rally.

"The people of our city should actively participate in the war against drugs and help the police catch suspected drug traffickers."

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=126&art_id=qw1151411580385C526

[The_Warmth]

1. Gross

Look at us! We can kill people! Fear!

[saigon68]

71. Life is CHEAP and WALMART sells a bunch of CRAP made by MURDERERS

FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH

[marmar]

2. Yikes...

BushCo is probably envious...

[Deja Q]

3. Drug dealers. I'm glad they're gone. But "war on drugs",

can't the fascist empire think of something original to say?

And why the people? It seems the government is doing well enough on its own.

[zreosumgame]

12. if they were

they could just as well have been reluctant slave workers or people who did not kss enough ass.

[maxsolomon]

38. drug dealers are created by illegality

absent that, they are pharmaceutical merchants.

[xenu]

42. in either case

In either case, the stuff costs too much.

[Hardrada]

4. "Life is cheap in the Orient."

Old cliche the "People's Republic" keeps trying to keep circulating.

[Endangered Specie]

5. Say what you will about capital punishment in the PRC...

but at least they werent shooting down groups of innocent Iraqi civilians..

[Art_from_Ark]

6. Maybe not Iraqis, but 17 years ago this month

the Chinese were shooting down groups of their own innocent civilians.

[ckramer]

7. Which has exchanged for their prosperity for 20 years

btw, USA should be executing drug dealers too. I think that's the only way that can stop the drug trades on the street.

[mongo]

10. Wow.

I must have missed the notice that it was reactionary extremist day on DU...

[wicket]

15. I didn't get the memo either

:popcorn:

[JVS]

18. Get with the program, dissent is the destroyer of nations!

[JVS]

17. Yeah, those fucking pro-democracy protestors had it coming!

The East Germans should have followed China's lead instead of allowing themselves to be pressured into letting down the Berlin wall. An era of East German prosperity would have followed. In fact, I can think of nothing better than busting some fucking hippie skulls at the next anti-war rally to get the USA out of its lackluster economic performance. Fucking peaceniks ruining the country! :sarcasm:

[ckramer]

23. You made me laugh, literally.

But I don't see how this thread has anything to do with East Germans and anti-rallies peaceniks.

It's called tough on crimes.

Why would democrats have any problems with that?

[Puglover]

26. No, it's called state sponsered murder.

I can think of another site out there that salivates over that. Tough on crime is a sane justice system and even saner sentencing.

[xenu]

44. Agreed.

The "kill 'em all" board is over at Free Republic.

[Asgaya Dihi]

36. Sure why would we have a problem with it.

After all it's just people, failed policy and wasted lives. What's the big deal?

Drug death rates are up, not down over the war on drugs. By seven times with cocaine and a similar amount with heroin. http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/drug-death.htm

Purity is up in both as well, by quite a bit with heroin and some at the street level with cocaine. Prices adjusted for inflation down quite a bit as well, they are a bargain compared to when we started.
http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/purity.htm
http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/prices.htm

And how's it working out for the people? Here's a quote to consider. "Mandatory sentencing laws disproportionately affect people of color. African-Americans make up 15% of the country’s drug users, yet they make up 37% of those arrested for drug violations, 59% of those convicted, and 74% of those sentenced to prison for a drug offense." http://www.idpi.us/resources/factsheets/mm_factsheet.htm

Want to see how that works out in practice? Here's a taste, more at the page. http://www.prisonsucks.com/

U.S. incarceration rates by race, June 30, 2004:

* Whites: 393 per 100,000
* Latinos: 957 per 100,000
* Blacks: 2,531 per 100,000

Look at just the males by race, and the incarceration rates become even more frightening, June 30, 2004:

* White males: 717 per 100,000
* Latino males: 1,717 per 100,000
* Black males: 4,919 per 100,000

If you look at males aged 25-29 and by race, you can see what is going on even clearer, June 30, 2004:

* For White males ages 25-29: 1,666 per 100,000.
* For Latino males ages 25-29: 3,606 per 100,000.
* For Black males ages 25-29: 12,603 per 100,000. (That's 12.6% of Black men in their late 20s.)

There's a reason the Democrats have had a steady erosion of power and influence over the course of the war on drugs and it's fairly obvious if we back up and look at it for a moment. With about 4.7 million ineligible to vote in this nation and large parts of them minorities and due to the drug war we've removed our own voters from the roles, or left the ones who still can vote so distrustful of both parties that they no longer show up for either. When we decided to prove we could be just as tough as a Republican, we proved we could be just like a Republican. The above is the results of our work as is the power balance in Washington today. We have to find the courage to actually stand for something if we want to change things. Tough on crime isn't it.

[bamacrat]

19. You must be joking

Death sentences for drug dealers. Hell why not go ahead and execute jaywalkers and speeders too. Average drug dealers dont hurt anyone, the people who smuggle it across borders and kill for it are the problem. Most "drug" dealers are just trying to make some extra money in this shitty ass economy.

[ckramer]

22. Okay, Death sentence for drug smuggler too.

I don't see anything other than death can stop the drug trade.

Democrats need to be tough on criminals too. Americans want to see that.

[ALago1]

27. I'm an American

Don't speak for me, chief.

[saigon68]

33. I hope you aren't accused by the police and arrested

And sent to the Gulag

[hogwyld]

47. I'm an American too

and I will fight tooth and nail against anything closely resembling your brand of "justice"

[Bill McBlueState]

52. do you also advocate

the death sentence for pharmaceutical manufacturers who put dangerous drugs on the market?

Only seems fair.

[noonwitch]

20. There will always be people willing to risk their lives for big $$$

Especially tax-free big money.

Also, as long as a certain percentage of the population feels like they want to get high, there will always be a market for drugs.

[ckramer]

24. Not if they understand what they do will lead to the end of their life

When you cut off the source of drugs on the street, the habits of using drugs will die down.

[SOS]

29. Would you also execute

liquor store owners who sell to minors?
They are violating the law, selling an addictive drug to children.

[ckramer]

31. No.

They are on a totally different scale with the real drug smugglers and dealers.

[fujiyama]

66. Really?

Last I read alcohol kills far more than all illegal drugs combined. There was a study just the other day on it.

Where are the kids getting the alcohol? Maybe the parents responsible for it should be executed as well? What about liquor store owners that don't card?

Clean up them streets. Yeeee Haaa! Yeah, now that there is some justice isn't it?

You obviously haven't thought this through very well and are having an emotional knee jerk response. Now, if you faced a loss of someone due to drug use I'm sorry, but ultimately those that choose to start to take drugs, do so at their own will. Many are chemically dependent but usually people that are hooked are not forced to start by someone else to start.

[prolesunited]

30. Hey, why stop at dealers?

Why not execute all of the addicts as well? Let's really clean up the streets. And after that, we'll take aim at all those homeless, drunken bums.

[ckramer]

32. Addicts are victims.

[xenu]

45. Addicts can be victims

Addicts can be victims, but they can be victimizers too, if they victimize others to support their addiction.

[hogwyld]

49. Yeah, I'm sure the death penalty threat

Stopped guys like Gacy, the Menendez brothers, Scott Peterson, etc...

[skipos]

67. Yeah, look at prohibition. That really stopped people from drinking

and reduced the illegal liquor trade.
:sarcasm:

[bitchkitty]

69. Why are you being deliberately moronic?

I am not accusing you of being a moron, in fact I'm accusing you of taking a moronic stance that you MUST know is stupid. I'm just curious as to why.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

50. Last time I checked...

killing people was worse than selling drugs to people.

[WindRavenX]

51. holy shit dude, I hope you're kidding

executing drug dealers? :wtf:

[Spider Jerusalem]

54. You're quite obviously delusional.

Executing drug dealers is STUPID. Drug use is a victimless crime. And most of the social problems associated with drug use stem directly from the fact that a) drugs are illegal, and b) that addiction is treated as a criminal matter rather than a medical problem. The criminalisation of drugs creates a lucrative black market that SOMEONE is going to supply, even if the penalty for getting caught is death; this leads to the involvement of organised crime, to gang violence between rival groups of dealers, et cetera; and further, the illegality of drugs leads to people who've committed no crimes against persons or property bogging down America's judicial system and filling the prisons. And only an idiot would think that the best way to solve the problem is to create more laws and harsher punishments; the 'war on drugs' is very obviously a colossal failure, and nothing is going to change that.

[slackmaster]

56. All extremists, and writers who abuse hyperbole deserve to be shot

:nuke:

[ckramer]

58. Thanks for everybody's comment

Personally I think that democrats have an image problem which is "soft on crime".

That pretty much prevents them from taking over the power in every level of the government in the last 6 years in my opinion.

We need to punish bad guys, seriously. Not to say that we have to kill them like the chinese do, but we have to punish them so badly that they won't dare to think about doing it the second time. That's the responsiblity of the government to protect innocent people and its citizen.

If democrats aren't willing to change that image, prepare to stay out of power for a long time to come.

[Solon]

60. And going after Medical Marijuana clinics like the Repukes do will...

accomplish that how?

Some laws are dumb, like the War on Drugs and 90% of drug laws, hell, MOST Americans are actually on my side on this, especially when it comes to MJ. Who are the bad guys in this?

[Solon]

59. You need to smoke a blunt...

or take a chill pill, either way, your post is insane!

[w4rma]

8. The Chinese government is much more corrupt than the U.S. government.

Unfortunately they're smarter too.

[snooper2]

11. you don't have to be smart...

when you can kill people at will for dissent....

[Puglover]

25. They are huh?

I haven't seen the Chinese government invading any sovereign countries based on a pack of lies lately.

[slackmaster]

41. They're still occupying Tibet

Enough said.

[MGD]

64. And don't forget about Taiwan

[wicket]

14. Why, when there are perfectly good Chinese civillians to be mowed down

Give me a break :eyes:

[Biernuts]

53. You know that guy's name? Wahn Dom Fawk n/t

[Zynx]

21. Oh, China shoots plenty of their own innocent civilians.

No need for them to go to Iraq.

[slackmaster]

43. John Wayne Gacy didn't shoot any innocent Iraqi civilians either

Heck, he didn't shoot ANYONE.

So I guess that makes him OK.

[rustydog]

9. Thank GAWD I live in Murika, I think I'll go fly my American flag

That was made in Communist China to show my love of freedom and rule of law!

[mike923]

13. Why'd you buy that one?

Most US flags are made in Ohio.

[Puglover]

28. Really.....wow, where'd you find that tidbit of info.

Last time I checked at Walmart all their flags where made in China.

[mike923]

34. On your next trip to Wal Mart....

take a look at the flags, most if not all will say, "Made in USA"

[wicket]

16. kick

:kick:

[yodermon]

35. I seem to remember Poppy

supporting the Death penalty for drug dealers.. anyone else remember this?

[mike923]

37. The ones that target pre teens.....

i wouldn't lose sleep over it. (for the record, i'm completely against the death penalty in all forms)

[maxsolomon]

48. who 'targets pre-teens'?

pre-teen dealers? there are drug dealers that discriminate based on age? like 'i won't sell to you cuz you're 30', but send your kid around? you sound like an afterschool special.

& sure, i could see killing 12 year olds that sell 'drugs'. :roll:

[McCamy Taylor]

39. "Executions" are organ harvests for transplants in China: boycott!!!

The US should impose some kind of embargo against organs harvested from China until the government cleans up the unethical way that it targets people for execution based on organs needed for transplant.

[Rex]

40. Welcome to anti-drug day! To kick off the celebrations we have

27 criminals waiting to be shot to death! Yay (crowd)! Everyone gather round as we kill people! Yay!

[nolabels]

46. Totalitarians following the same path

Only the delusional think the US government is not heading in the same direction. If you go to doctor, invariably the answer to the problem is to ease complaint with feel good drugs. Advice to be sure but masking the pain is just the way of every other junkie. Pain tells us about who we are and what we are made of. The drug dealers and manufacturers need us to reject pain to keep them in business. They all want to make everyone weak so they can get what they need from them, figure it out.

You only get to take our drugs or you go to jail :shrug:

A Viagra-model Solution to the War on Drugs
Bernhard Haisch, Ph.D. Astrophysicist
Poorly funded schools. Deteriorating highways. Gang violence. Blame it on the "war on drugs."

Drug dealing and enforcement together constitute a several hundred billion dollar per year business worldwide <1>. We are fueling the world's largest black market, creating criminal empires of global drug dealers, and in return our society gets gangs, violence, crime, corruption and a drain on our resources.

This robs and threatens everyone of us. California, for example, has built only one new university since 1984... thanks to building 20 new prisons. And these prisons are now overflowing with people whose crime is not robbery, rape or murder, but merely private use of a "controlled substance." It costs taxpayers about $30,000 per prisoner per year. There is a way out of this waste of life and money, a "live and let live" compromise we can live with.

The function of Prozac and several similar prescription drugs is not to fight sickness, but to make people feel good. Viagra has gone one step further It is really our first legal recreational drug. This opens a whole new solution to our dangerous, costly war on drugs. Let's challenge pharmaceutical companies to come up with one or more safe, non-addictive, legal recreational drugs, available to adults by prescription. It is futile to try to stamp out something people desire. Throughout history this approach has never worked, but a safe and controlled alternative often has. However the real reason to try this is not just personal freedom. The real reason is that the current war on drugs is the single most corrupting, violence-generating factor in the world today and we've got to stop it.

Primarily as an anti-drug offensive, the government has granted itself vast power to seize private property even from innocent people. So if a spouse or a business partner, say, winds up involved in drugs, your share of assets may be taken away from you no matter how innocent you might be. In an amazing ruling the Supreme Court upheld the right of the government to do just that. An innocent wife in Michigan recently lost her share of a seized automobile because her husband had used it in soliciting a prostitute.<2> That widely-publicized case happened not to involve drugs, but the "war on drugs" is where seizure is more widely used all the time by the government.
(snip)
http://www.serendipity.li/wod/haisch.htm

[ProgressiveEconomist]

70. Yes--a vision of our future. You can't get "tougher on crime" than that

[Kailassa]

55. Speaking of drug pushers, I found an advertisement in

a womens' magazine today for nicorette lozenges, as a weight reduction aid. Only in tiny letters at the bottom was it mentioned that nicorette is an anti-smoking aid.

I'd gladly see those drug pushers punished.

[LifeDuringWartime]

57. olympics

i wonder if they're going to pull stunts like this during the olympics?

[RaVeN MeaD]

61. You Know.......

Drugs really sell themselves, these guy are just keeping eveyones supply up. Just kidding.
I noticed that the article didn't mention Cannabis. Do they not smoke herb in China?

[MGD]

62. I don't have a lot of sympathy for executed heroin dealers.

They're right up there with child molesters IMO; however, at the same time, it's difficult to support any policy that gives the government more authority to kill its citizens...this government especially. On a philosophical level, it seems almost like a moral relativity argument but not quite. It's more of a moral/ethical dillema with relativist tones. It's not a simple argument.

[fujiyama]

65. Yeah people that sell a product

that someone is dumb enough to take is the same as someone actually physically assulting and forcing a child to commit sex acts.

Do I even need the fuckin sarcasm tag?

On a philosophical level, your reasoning is nonsensical. I'm sorry, but drug peddlers and smugglers are not necessarily nice people, but to claim they're on the same level as pedophiles and child rapists is idiotic. For a society that loves capitalism it sure doesn't seem to understand how the market works.

[sweetheart]

68. "if" they got the right man

Chinese justice has been anything but for decades, a charade for executing
and imprisoning political opposition, much like in the US where the drugs
war incarcerates opposition voters by the million, but nobody in the opposition
fights for their rights, because they have been cowered by the strategy of
systemic disenfranchisement.

The idea that breaking any person is a solution to a social issue, is not progressive,
rather punative, puerile and fundamentalist, based on absolutes of justice and integrity
that only exist in books.

[ismnotwasm]

63. Well that oughta work

I'm sure any drug dealing, drug smuggling or any drug related activity is now over in China, and any related subsidiary country. Fear always stops drug dealers and drug users. Fear always stopped international drug trafficking. That's why the problem is so insignificant today.
It must be the answer, just kill a bunch of people as a grand gesture. Hopefully they were relatively healthy so they can become willing, nay--eager organ donors.
Sorry, I'm too disgusted not to be sarcastic.

:sarcasm: