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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:40 AM
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New ratings create buzz for (Bill) Clinton

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/bal-te.clinton26jun26,0,6947174.story?coll=ny-leadnationalnews-headlines

New ratings create buzz for Clinton
But it's unclear whether popularity will aid wife


DENVER -- From somewhere in the luncheon crowd, chants of "four more years" break out as Bill Clinton is introduced.
"We need a Bill Clinton style of leadership back in our country," Sen. Ken Salazar tells fellow Colorado Democrats, recalling Clinton's presidency as a time of unprecedented peace and prosperity.

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Public approval for the way he handled his job as president has increased significantly in recent years, even among Republicans. A USA Today/Gallup poll this month put his job approval rating as president at 61 percent. (President Bush's was 36 percent in the same survey.)

Clinton is generating considerable buzz among party insiders as he tours the country, raising millions for Democrats and renewing contacts that could pay off handsomely for his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, if, as expected, she runs for president.

For some voters, the prospect of sending Bill Clinton back to Washington, whether in a formal position or as a behind-the-scenes adviser, could be an asset for his wife's candidacy, Democrats say. But exactly what role he would play in her campaign, and in her administration if they returned to the White House, poses a complicated set of issues.


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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:44 AM
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1. So even among Repubs
Shrubby makes Clinton look good?

There's hope for this country yet.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:30 PM
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8. that f***tard bush would make a ham sandwich look good
hands down the worst "president" in my lifetime
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:53 AM
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2. Kudos for adding the "(Bill)".
A helpful and useful clarification, which makes it unnecessary to read further (or click) to know which Clinton is meant.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:57 AM
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3. Ask Al
Somehow that partnership thing doesn't sound all that great. Hillary especially got submarined just when we needed a health care program. Bill didn't do much for Gore in some critical ways not to mention who exactly got to carry the impeachment baggage.

Also, it is not nearly enough anymore to get a parity Congress or just a Prez who will be trapped in the middle of the road reaping the benefits of gridlock among the corrupt spenders. Things have significantly changed as well as the entire political campaign landscape for which Hillary is not prepared- and sadly- not fit. Not just hillary but any DLC persistence here now could be fatal. Anything expected and timeworn will be a gift to the GOP. All political capital from the past can be subverted, all real advantages cheated and blown away. It would be very ugly if the so-called centrists were duped into allowing the crooks to step briefly aside unscathed while destroying themselves in the mess Bush made. The money would poor in to bloat the soul and power roots of the restored to power Dems, just like weed killer works with those pretty dandelions.

We have too many political crises, too many world crises, too many crimes fatal to democracy and humanity itself at loose. These nostalgic sentiments seem puerile in comparison and at the least will allow the hungover drunken GOP to keep a step ahead or even all the way. Under Clinton, unrestrained greed became the fatal base for the latest plunge into a retrograde mockery of past tyranny and corruption. We'll need a lot more than hair of the dog and handicapped restraint with Bush SCOTUS knocking down all efforts with a stroke of their vote.

61% ? So how is that represented in Congress- 40%? We need a sea change not just a change of captains in a leaky boat.

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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:08 AM
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4. Bill the speaker is terrific and alive. Bill the politician is dead.
Frankly we have seen time and time again that Clinton's DLC policies and approaches to campaigns will not work again. Bill is a wonderful speaker and he got himself out of some serious jams and got a moderate base to vote for him that may never vote for another Democrat again, but let's face it he made it that way.

Clinton's never ending bend to the right helped nudge the country just before Bushco gave it the hard shove that shifted right wing conservatism into where the middle was. Clinton signed NAFTA and the Welfare Reform act and pushed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy and the whole Defense of Marriage Act.

Look, you can like someone personally but disagree with their politics and that's where I stand with Bill Clinton.

He showed his true colors in 2004 when he urged Kerry to come out against Gay Marriage. Hillary has basically been a right winger the past year and Fox News had a fundraiser for them. That says it all.

Clinton made us feel good at a time when a Republican congress was taking us to the right. Clinton's speaking style and manner blindfolded us to the neocon plan that was in action and we're paying dearly for it now. He had a chance to take the country left when he first took office with a Democratic Congress and he chose to cater to the right.

They made his life a living hell and yet he always ended up siding with them.

And now we're all stuck with the fact that Clinton and the DLC tells everyone on the Left to move right and we lose elections doing it and we're stuck with socially crippling policies he signed on to appease the Republicans.

I don't see Bush siding with us on one single issue and we look like fucking fools for bending over backwards to cooperate with them in the 1990s now.

I never want the Clinton era back. I want the return of Progressive, left leaning, liberal idealism that can only be had by those not in the Clinton loop.

May we finally smarten up about this.

Rp
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:02 AM
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5. Well said,
If Hillary runs, I am voting Green.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:23 AM
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6. No doubt that Bill would be quite an asset for Hillary
Most of us loved Theresa Heinz Kerry. She, also, was a wonderful asset for John Kerry, not to mention the affection we all feel for Elizabeth Edwards.

I personally believe that anyone who posts about the future presidential race should state the dem they are supporting. I do not mind posters who are against Hillary; however, I believe we should all be up front about our potential bias.

It looks as if, to me, that the remarkably charismatic John Edwards will be Hillary's biggest competition, if she runs; and, I have to say, that as much as I love Hillary, I also love the Edwards.

We have a plethora of marvelous democratic talent; and, I believe we can boost our own personal choice without tearing down very influential and valuable members of our own party. Let's please leave it to the pugs to swiftboat our guys, not us, personally.

Just sayin'.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:49 PM
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7. 61%....My Gawd...isn't that steady for him...Good...RW Couldn't touch
him, no matter how they tried. Some of us have reassessed Clinton's Presidency ...but this is really good to see.

I''m hoping Gore will run and win and he can use Bill in his Presidency.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:41 PM
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9. Clinton and Gore had a fantastic Presidency
that would have been even better if it wasn't for the treachery of the repug impeachment machine.

repugs have shown themselves to be utter incompetent's. They can never be believed again.
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