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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:25 PM
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Neo-cons question Bush’s democratisation strategy

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1f808bd2-ef54-11da-b435-0000779e2340.html

Neo-cons question Bush’s democratisation strategy

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But as the US struggles to assert itself on the international stage, the president’s most radical supporters now dismiss this as mere rhetoric, and traditional conservatives are questioning the wisdom of a democratisation strategy that has brought unpleasant consequences in the Middle East.

Administration officials speak privately of a sense of fatigue over the worsening crisis in Iraq that has drained energy from other important policy issues. Senior officials are leaving – not so unusual in a second term, but still giving the sense of a sinking ship run in some quarters by relatively inexperienced crew.

Neo-conservative commentators at the American Enterprise Institute wrote last week what amounted to an obituary of the Bush freedom doctrine.

“Bush killed his own doctrine,” they said, describing the final blow as the resumption of diplomatic relations with Libya. This betrayal of Libyan democracy activists, they said, came after the US watched Egypt abrogate elections, ignored the collapse of the “Cedar Revolution” in Lebanon, abandoned imprisoned Chinese dissidents and started considering a peace treaty with Stalinist North Korea.

The neo-conservatives offered no explanation for desertion of the doctrine, other than a desire to make quick but transitory short-term gains. “The president continues to believe his own preaching, but his administration has become incapable of making the hard choices those beliefs require,” they wrote.

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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:29 PM
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1. weak people,,even i could kick there asses with my hands tied
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:32 PM
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2. neoCons are jumping on the Bushbash bandwagon a bit late since THEY ARE
RESPONSIBLE for these disastrous wars :puke:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:34 PM
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3. Neocons are washing their hands from the mess they helped create
Edited on Mon May-29-06 09:38 PM by IndianaGreen
soon they will be joining their neoliberal counterparts by accusing Bush of mismanaging the war, rather than admit the war itself was a strategic fiasco.

Graham Fuller, former diplomat and intelligence officer, suggests the US is suffering from “strategic fatigue” brought on by “imperial over-reach”.


I really believe we will better off as a nation once we abandon all desire to be an empire. An American empire is not what the Founders envisioned.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:06 PM
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13. Like the priviledged cowards that they are, they will leave it for someone
else to clean up their nasty mess. Just like everyone cleaned up after the shurbery and his business messes. They are entitled after all for the rest of us to clean up their elephant poop.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:39 PM
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4. Neo-cons are invading the Democratic party.
Once the GOP collapses, the Neo-Cons need a new home with power and connections. That home would be the rising Democratic Party.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-op-heilbrunn28may28,0,6411415.story?coll=la-home-commentary

We must root these bastards out of the party.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:42 PM
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5. They always been here, Marshall Whittmann and Al From
The DLC's misnamed Progressive Policy Institute is a cesspool of globalist imperialists.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:53 PM
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7. Move "Further to the right"?! Cripes, we'll fall off this flat planet if
we move over any further.

Just as the old neocons wanted to expel the McGovernites, so the new ones want to rid the party of the Moveon.org types and move it to the right. As Beinart puts it, "whatever its failings, the right at least knows that America's enemies need to be fought."
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:31 AM
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12. That's right. The DLC ethic HAS to go. Imperialism is a danger to our
survival. The corporatists are greedy cowrds and their actions benefit no one but themselves.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:11 PM
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14. Yea. They are the DLC
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:45 PM
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6. "Neo-conservatives" - WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA?
they can NEVER face reality, but here it is: even bush was faced with the reality that we are not all powerfull and able to shape reality with our wishfull thinktanking. There are limits to all power. The thinktank blitzkrieg is over, time to focus the spotlight on these foolish vermin, their day in the sun is over and they mustn't be let to just scurry away into the darkness.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:13 PM
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15. They hate ordinary people and democracy because they see
themselves as the "Aristocracy" who should rule. They have never wanted and can not have empathy for ordinary people.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:46 PM
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8. Such Courage.....
Ignorant, insane.... and cowards. Quite the All-American crew. Good riddance to this rubbish... and take all the bush/war lovers with you. Frikkin' cowards.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:25 PM
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9. These mutant freaks are the ones who helped write that "doctrine"
of pre-emption. They are the ones that have abrogated the US Constitution. Their hands are bloody and they are cowards.

The should all be imprisoned as traitors to the USoA.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:32 PM
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10. Unpleasant consequences?
I think we have our understatement of the year folks.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:26 AM
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11. Unpleasant consequences
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