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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:17 AM
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City Council votes to seize Wal-Mart land
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/24/WALMART.TMP

HERCULES
City Council votes to seize Wal-Mart land

Patrick Hoge, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

The Hercules City Council voted unanimously Tuesday night to take the unprecedented step of using eminent domain to prevent Wal-Mart from building a big-box store on a 17-acre lot near the city's waterfront.

The vote caused most of the 300 people who had packed Hercules City Hall for the meeting to break out in cheers and applause.

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Officials from the nation's largest retailer have said they are determined to open a store on the company's 17 acres overlooking San Pablo Bay. In a letter to the city on Tuesday, Wal-Mart attorneys argued that eminent domain was unnecessary because the company had tailored its project to meet the community's desires, downsizing the proposed store and garden center from 167,000 square feet to roughly 100,000 square feet and designing the shopping center to have "a very attractive, village-like appearance.''

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The city was the first in the state to adopt a redevelopment code that prescribes the design of streets, building dimensions and some architectural requirements, such as front porches. A key part of the plan called for a waterfront village with high-density housing and shops, a shoreline park, a train station, bus service and even a ferry stop.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:20 AM
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1. Yay! n/t
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:23 AM
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2. Wal-Mart, the leech of retail, fuck them,
aren't a gazillion stores enough?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:25 AM
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3. Excellent!
Every once in a while, We The People win. :)
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:29 AM
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4. Good for them
I hope other cities follow their lead.
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harpboy_ak Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:30 AM
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5. The town was designed as a livable community
specifically designed to human scale for humans, not cars, and Wal-Fart wants to barge in and ruin the reason folks moved there with another ugly megabox?

Good for them! It's about time communities all did like the entire state of Vermont did: tell Wal-Fart to take their crummy low wage jobs and chinese crap and shove it where the sun don't shine.

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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:32 AM
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6. Good! They try to use it for their own advantage, let them suffer from it
too. FUCK Wal-Mart. Good for the city.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:55 AM
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7. wal mart will probably sue....what have they go to lose?
then again,losing in court may formalize a precedent that other cities could use...
anyway, props to this city council.
hope it doesn't get too bloody..
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:12 AM
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9. They can sue - but the Supreme Court just recently decided that
taking by eminent domain would be ok in this kind of situation. (Not a decision I liked in particular, but I *do* like that it's being used against Wal-Mart. :nopity:
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:29 AM
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12. K-MART should be next
Its like anyone except die hards vist K-MART, I think their land is better suited for building a park, firestation, schools, etc on.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:40 AM
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14. I cannot stand how slow it is to check out at K-mart. I've only been there
a handful of times in the last 20 years (probably all to get something my grandmother wanted). I've regretted it every time.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:10 AM
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8. YAY! n/t
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:22 AM
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10. That's kind of ironic, isn't it?
So big business had really pushed expanded use of eminent domain so that they can take the land belonging to other people and place their businesses there. Here in Arizona it was often used to push the lower class from their downtown area homes so that the wealthy could come in and redevelop the land.

Now one of their own kind has had it used against them. Kudos to that city counsel for taking on one of the biggest bullies in the country. Maybe there's some hope after all.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:26 AM
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17. It's beautiful when their schemes backfire on them.
Welcome to D.U., 987654321! :hi: :hi: :hi:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:53 AM
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18. The law is a two edged sword


Look for more of this kind of thing used against destructive and wasteful development as gas prices rise to $4, $5 and $6 per gallon
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:26 AM
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11. I'm glad they did this but Kelo v. New London is still a bad decision
Of course, it the city builds a public property then Kelo v. New London is not applicable in this case.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:35 AM
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13. Kelo v New London included public use
In fact, that development was exactly the same as the one described in Hercules, park, public paths, housing, etc.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:05 AM
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15. Nice Job
Edited on Wed May-24-06 03:06 AM by depakid
It's great to see communities with integrity pulling out the stops to protect themselves from predators like Walmart.

"The vote caused most of the 300 people who had packed Hercules City Hall for the meeting to break out in cheers and applause."
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:10 AM
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16. I was there and it rocked!
I was at the city council meeting, and am I proud of my 'burb! Wal-Mart lawyers complained about how WM had spent A MILLION DOLLARS (!) revising their original plan to accommodate Hercules' "upscale" demands. As if. This is a beautiful, unpretentious, thoroughly integrated area where residents take pride in their property and seem to share a desire to maintain a distinct community where we can live peacefully, raise families and be left alone.

Those who spoke on behalf of the town's vision were articulate, passionate, and resolute. Wal-Mart produced a couple of lawyers and a few lame (probably paid) supporters, but the overwhelming response was "We don't like you, we don't want you, you're nasty to your employees and you lie...GO AWAY!!!"

There was a huge cheer when the unanimous "NO" from council was announced. Outside city hall, strangers were glad-handing each other.

Again, I love my city!!! Go Herc!!!
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:54 AM
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22. People should read the book The Great American Jobs Scam,
Edited on Wed May-24-06 08:58 AM by 1932
It makes a great argument that these retailers are not healthy for a community's economic base.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 10:48 AM
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24. Welcome to DU
:hi:

Thanks for the report. Give your city council a big high-five from Oaktown.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:06 PM
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25. Thanks, wryter2000!
Long time lurker here.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 07:53 AM
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19. God damnit! Good news? I needed some good news.
I'm so pissed! Every fucking night it's the same thing around here- logging trucks at 3am!
Someone seize the forests of this country. Give them back to the public and let them grow like actual forests.

Sorry. I just can't help it. You try buying a house, and then discovering it's unliveable.

PS- I've been seriously pissed about my cousin who flies his plane around the country and builds Walmarts. That's one less he'll get to build. Haha. I think I'll make sure he sees the article.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:45 AM
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20. Good news in the war against Wall Mart!
:party:
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 08:49 AM
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21. Now I just need to have my city council seize our own Arkansas Deathstar
and burn it down. For the good of the community, of course.:evilgrin:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 10:45 AM
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23. Awwwright, Hercules
:applause:

Oakland's fought them and (I believe) won, too. There is a Walmart in San Leandro. I've never set foot inside it.
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