Will Rush stay outta trouble? Blood will tell (Random drug tests)

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/413788p-349834c.html

Rush Limbaugh must submit to random drug tests under an agreement filed Monday that will dismiss a prescription fraud charge against the conservative commentator after 18 months if he complies with the terms.

He also must continue treatment for his acknowledged addiction to painkillers and he cannot own a gun.

The agreement did not call for Limbaugh to admit guilt to the charge that he sought a prescription from a physician in 2003 without revealing that he had received medications from another practitioner within 30 days. He pleaded not guilty Friday.

“This is a common sense resolution and the appropriate way the state should treat people who have admitted an addiction to prescription pain medication and voluntarily sought treatment,” Limbaugh’s attorney, Roy Black, said in a statement Monday to The Associated Press.

[DURHAM D]

1. Does anyone know if he is on some sort of

maintenance drug program to help with his addiction to oxyc ?

[meow2u3]

9. He'll probably start taking percs

Percs are a less potent cousin of oxys and contain the ingredient in Tylenol.

Then he'll likely buy some herbal body flush to try to beat the drug test.

[BOSSHOG]

2. Will diebold administer the urinalysis screening?

That must be an incomplete Roy Black quote. The last part of the sentence reads, "except for poor non-whites and registered democrats." The constitution is supposed to only apply to flag waving "conservatives."

[classysassy]

3. Justice

what a joke,fatass white criminal get a pat,not a slap on the wrist,black ghetto kid get ten to twenty,or if he is young enough for the military, he can go army and get sent to fight Bush's wars,we as a country need to wake up before the fat lady start singing.

[UpInArms]

4. but...but... the FReepers said he plead "innocent" and this was all

a big joke - just to cost limpballs money!

He's not guilty they screamed - the libral media is just attacking their true patriot!

Why would those libral law enforcement types do random drug tests on someone who will have no criminal record in 18 months?

:crazy:

[Rex]

5. The blood tests will be fixed either way so it doesn't matter.

Bloated Ass really is above the law, just like Jeb's niece Noe. Must be nice to live at that caliber in America. Laws? Only apply to the working class and non-connected.

[Benhurst]

6. BushAmerican "justice" is a bad joke. NT

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. I don't mind a common sense approach to such matters

but anyone else would be in jail instead.

[Frank Cannon]

8. I'm sure the people giving these tests like keeping their jobs...

and so I'm sure Rush will do just fine, regardless of how smacked out he is when he staggers in.

[Vidar]

10. My eyesight is failing: thought/hoped it said Bush.

[Fluffdaddy]

11. Got off to easy ?

Hit this poll
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/04/29/m1a_rush_0429.html

[midnight]

12. I believe that those with chronic pain are put on pain relievers like

Oxytoxin, but that because of the pain there is no addiction caused. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

[benEzra]

17. Some thoughts on opioids...

A lot of people conflate physical dependence and tolerance with addiction, but they're not the same. All opioids, including oxycontin, will produce some degree of physical dependence or tolerance (requiring a higher dose until a plateau is eventually reached), and withdrawal symptoms will occur if the drug is stopped. That's not true addiction. Addiction is more of a psychological issue, with a person using fast-peaking doses of a drug for a "high" and the behavior becomes self-reinforcing. Some drugs have more potential for addiction than others.

Oxycontin is less prone to cause addiction than some other opioids because it's time-release, and fast-peaking doses are much more likely to cause addiction than steadier doses. It can happen, but the risk is lower.

FWIW, my son developed morphine dependence at age 3, after an open-heart surgery that had major complications occur (we almost lost him from a perforated pulmonary artery, they did an emergency heart-lung bypass in his femoral artery so they could get his heart stopped, he was on bypass more than 6 1/2 hours and received twice his blood volume in transfusions), and he was on high-dose IV morphine for around week postop because he had some lung damage from being on bypass so long and needed time to recover on the ventilator. By the time he was ready to come off the vent in the ICU, he was totally morphine dependent, and after a day or two of adjusting his meds they realized he'd have to go cold turkey, stop the morphine and pull the vent as soon as he was awake. It was awful, he had the tremors and chills and everything, but it was over in a day or two, they got him on a tapering methadone regimen, and that was that.

He's now seven and has had a total of two open-heart surgeries, seven angioplasties, and a Ladd procedure. In all but the Ladd, I know he was on morphine postop, and he's had fentanyl more times than I can count, plus methadone and enough other narcotics to send a whole roomful of DEA agents into hysterics. But it sure beats the alternative of having him feel his sternum grinding together every time he took a breath for a week...

Powerful drugs carry risks, but not having them would be MUCH worse for a lot of people...

[TNOE]

23. My "street experience"

as opposed to medical experience.

My ex SO's mother had Alzheimer's. They prescribed her oxycontin and it really did do wonders for her, only because it knocked her so completely out of her mind (which was what she needed because she had so much anxiety and was so freaked out not ever knowing where she was or who she was). It was almost the only way you could really deal with her, but my understanding was that Oxy was only prescribed for "terminally ill" patients because it was so potent and addictive, but if you were dying, there was no harm in being addicted. My ex SO was facing a nervous breakdown and instead of getting on anti-depressents, he decided to try the Oxy instead. And unfortunately for him, he loved it because it made him feel good. And that was the end of him. Within 2 years he had lost EVERY THING, his business, his home, all his possessions, his rental properties, everything. Before he lost it all, he could no longer mentally handle reality whatsoever, and it seemed his mental capabilities really diminished. The ex SO went into treatment, but it did not work or last, as so many don't.

And yes, as another poster said, they are "time released" but addicts will wash off the coating and snort it to get the immediate high.

[KamaAina]

13. What? Those filthy commies want to take away his gun?

He also must continue treatment for his acknowledged addiction to painkillers and he cannot own a gun.

Why do they hate America so much? :sarcasm: I mean, it's perfectly OK for Cheney to get sloshed and start blowing away his hunting partners, but one little brush with the law and the OxyMoron gets emasculated, er, I mean disarmed? It's not fair, I tell you! :nopity:

[hang a left]

14. Blood tests will only tell if he has the drug in his body right then.

Urine would go 48-72 hours.

If they did hair folicle they could run tests every three months and know if he had returned to using. It doesn't need to be random. You can't beat the test.

[rppper]

18. not neccesarily.......

time depends on several factors, like how much and how often the drug is used, how it was administered, fat levels in the testee.......if he is eating a pill a day for a week, it will take a week or so to leave. if it's injected, slightly longer....it all depends on the size of the particle of the drug in question as to where it goes in the addicts system.

crack cocaine users i work with are always amazed that crack stayed in their system for 2 to 3 weeks when coke that is sniffed only stays in for 3 to 5 days....the smoke is finer than a cut line...particles are smaller thus travel farther into ones system.

if limbaugh is injecting daily...and the length of time which he has been abusing opioids suggests this....it will remain in his system for a while...i'd guess a week to ten days as he is middle aged and still somewhat chubby.

liver function also plays a big role. if his hearing is bad due to drugs, rest assured his liver function 'aint so hot either....this will add days as well.

opioids are not an easy drug to come off of...i doubt a 30 day stay at rehab helped him...unless he has stuck to a program. addicts are the most intelligent people on the planet, especially if they have a reason to keep it in the closet...this was a man who was muleing his maid AND getting pills from multiple doctors...he was as hardcore as any street heroin user..maybe worse...he was caught with what, 4500 pills?...thats like 150 pills a day...rush really is f'n superman!!! he is the bull rhino of opioid addiction

[rodeodance]

15. as Keith Olbermann said--Rush will have to randomly pee in the cup.

[alfredo]

16. Send him some poppy seed muffins.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

19. Hmmm, there are some very strict standards around drug testing.

There are usually just a handful of qualified labs in most states, since the guidelines are so tight.

These are results that are used in court cases. There is regulated documentation of the chain of custody and strict reporting protocols.

Initially, it sounded as if he walked away scot-free if he didn't get into trouble with procuring drugs.

I think he's tossing the dice submitting to random drug tests.

He certainly doesn't sound as if he's scot-free to me. MKJ

[Karmakaze]

20. Actually...

My concern is not whether he gets off the drugs (honestly I dont care) what I do care about is the lack of a requirement to plead guilty. It seems to me that THAT is the special treatment. I have never heard of a "plea bargain" where the bargain was not accompanied by a plea of guilty to at least some kind of charge (possesion for example).

This guy has got off with everything. He has not had to admit to ANY crime, not even a misdemeanor. That seems totally unjust to me.

[pnwmom]

21. Not making him plead guilty is a big mistake. Whoever heard of a

plea agreement like that?

That is the part that really galls me, too.

[catmandu57]

22. Junkie will never make it

I think the prosecutor knoes just how fucked up the pigboy is, he made the deal knowing how hard it is for junkies to come clean. This fuckwad is a major weight addict and so full of hate he'll never be able to work any kind of program.
I agree he's rolling the dice on testing, and sooner rather than later he's going to drop a dirty test, then we'll see what happens.