Bin Laden calls for jihad in Darfur

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DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden urged his followers to prepare for a long war against Western would-be occupiers in Sudan's Darfur region, according to an audiotape attributed to him and aired on Sunday.

The speaker, who sounded like bin Laden, also said on the tape broadcast on Al Jazeera television that the West's shunning of the Hamas Palestinian government showed it was waging a "Crusader-Zionist war" on Muslims.

"I call on the mujahideen and their supporters in Sudan ... and the Arabian peninsula to prepare all that is necessary to wage a long-term war against the Crusaders in western Sudan," bin Laden said, accusing the West of seeking to divide Sudan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060423/ts_nm/security_binladen_dc_8

Actual title should be "Huge Petroleum Reserves Found In Sudan".:eyes:

[PSPS]

1. I'm tired of this show. Change the channel.

Does bush still have an audience for this nonsense?

[madrchsod]

2. so bin boy issues a jihad

so what.maybe bin boy should tell this buddies to stop kidnapping christians and selling them into slavery. who cares what he says...oh i forgot it`s the oil companies who care, now there is another excuse to push the price up another 5-10 a barrel.

[OKthatsIT]

25. who do you think bin laden really works for?

Bush loves Osama.

[Ian David]

3. Bin Laden had nothing to say about The Duke Rape case of Natalie Holloway

And he didn't even mention gay marriage or steroids in baseball!

He is so out of touch!

[onehandle]

4. Yes, but he does communicate from beyond the grave...

That's pretty impressive.

Either that or from a basement in Crawford.

[Spazito]

6. LOL, Perfect post! n/t

[Jon8503]

5. Didn't Bin Laden come out on the last big drop in Bush's poll

numbers? Is Rove running out of ideas or was the only ideas he ever had was using fear tactics and politics of destruction. This administrative has never run a campaign on the issues or in a constructive, positive manner.

Also, another subject, does anyone know what this Jack Anderson business is where all of a sudden after all these years, they are wanting his files.

[cliss]

10. I tell you -

there is such a thing as "crying wolf" or sounding the alarm too many times.

Just like any asset, you've got to use it with discretion. Got that, Karl?

[ArmchairMeme]

7. Quick Study

How cooperative that Bin Laden uses the newly coined Rumsfeld term "long war" in his message.

[Binka]

12. Well No Shit They Use The Same Speech Writer

Welcome to DU BTW love your handle!

[Up2Late]

13. Good catch, Aljazeera caught that part too.

He's also asking his supportes to "Cut and Run" to Sudan! Sound familiar?

Sounds like "bin Laden" is hoping that they will take the jihad AWAY from Iraq to where the U.S. troops are NOT!?! Man, what does this guy live in a cave or something?

<http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FEE6E1E5-DCC0-4E8A-80CF-FFCCA2BC4C2A.htm>

'Long war'

At other points in the message, Bin Laden also spoke about the conflict in Iraq and, for the first time, the crisis in Darfur, Sudan.

He urged Muslim supporters to go to Sudan to foil what he called Western, especially American, efforts to divide the country. "I call on mujahidin and their supporters, especially in Sudan and the Arab peninsula, to prepare for long war against the crusader plunderers in Western Sudan.

"Our goal is not defending the Khartoum government but to defend Islam, its land and its people," he added.
He also denounced the January 2005 north-south peace accord, saying to " Omar Al-Bashir and Bush that this agreement is not worth the ink it was written with and does not bind us."

Southern Sudan, he said, had to stay part of the Islamic lands...."

<http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FEE6E1E5-DCC0-4E8A-80CF-FFCCA2BC4C2A.htm>

[ixion]

18. yeah, I caught that one, too

important for them to all stay on message.

[Canuckistanian]

23. "I urge Muslims to fight the enemy in Darfur...

"... so we don't have to fight them in here in Pakistan.. er, um, yeah."

Welcome to DU!
:toast:
:hi:

[stubtoe]

8. Ah, they've dusted off the Bin Laden-bot again.

yeeeesh.

[judaspriestess]

9. bin ladden can also take cheney's

advice and go fuck himself. He and * are IDENTICAL the same three fucking sentences have come out of their mouths for the past 5 years.

[cliss]

11. (trying to look at this logically)

What's in Sudan? Why would "Usama" want to deflect attention to this area? Is it a muslim country? What about his Fatwa against the occupiers in the Middle East? I see there is no reference to that.

[Up2Late]

14. I noticed that too, it's like he wants his supporters to "cut and run!"

I'd love to know if anyone still believes these are real in the Arab speaking world?

<http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FEE6E1E5-DCC0-4E8A-80CF-FFCCA2BC4C2A.htm>

[Joanne98]

15. And the blacks the goverment is killing ARE Muslims.

[cliss]

16. Ah. Thank you.

That helps explain it. Now I'm wondering: is there any oil in Sudan?

[tocqueville]

26. plenty of oil in Sudan

canadisn, chinese, french concessions

[aquart]

17. And which Muslims is he defending?

Darfur is Muslim slaughtering Muslim.

So, is anybody buying this crap?

[Igel]

21. He's defending Muslims.

If he took sides, he wouldn't put the Fur on his side. Non-traditional. But in this case it's the territorial and "Islamic" integrity of Sudan that's at issue. It's an issue that's gotten some space in the 'moderate' English-language Arab press, and I assume it's gotten more in the less moderate portions of the Arabic-language press.

He's defending the "Islamicity" of the land; in the case of Darfur, it is majority Muslim; whether they're good Muslims or not isn't the issue, since it's populated by Muslims and controlled by Muslims. What's interesting is the case of the south of the Sudan. As far as I know, it's never been majority Muslim. But it has been under Muslim jurisdiction and control: i.e., it was "submitted" to Islam, so all's well. The idea of it unsubmitting is untenable: it would constitute oppression and an injustice, as well as impede da'wa, grounds for jihad.

It's quite consistent, actually, and very 'big picture'.

[TomClash]

22. It's also called genocide

That was big picture too - in Cambodia, Germany, Russia, etc. The slaughter of thousands of Christians and animists in the south isn't interesting - it's revolting.

[Igel]

24. Yes, it's genocide.

But this isn't a novel event, and his species of Islam has no problem with it if it's necessary to obtain the proper submission. Wiping out the polytheists isn't exactly a crime in 13th-14th century Islam, and for some failing to wipe them out is. But putting down a rebellion--when subjects of lesser faiths fail to submit to those who submit to Allah--is also approved of.

In some theologies, genocide's low on the list of problems if it's done for the right cause. I don't happen to agree with those theologies, but I find it interesting that again we see from UBL the implication that Dar ul-Islam should properly only expand, regardless of the attitudes of the people actually living there. This is somewhat more than leit-motif in his pontifications; however, it is one that receives little comment or attention.

[thefool_wa]

19. This guy infuriates me

Its amazing how much of an openly hypercritical, ignorant, closed minded, megalomaniacal crap monkey Osama really is.

I hope your comment about Sudan was in jest, because the conditions there are abhorrent and intervention is far more necessary there than it was in Iraq or is in Iran. The UN should have done something two years ago, and our government doesn't care (most likely for the opposite reason expressed in your last line).

Here's irony for you: Osama claims in this new tape that the people are just as responsible for a war as the government. Well, I do believe that Osama supports the ideas of an Islam state and any region who wants to instate one, making Islam his government. We can conclude then that, based on his logic, we should hold EVERY Muslim accountable for the terrorist actions committed by the wackjobs he seems so adept at recruiting.

Sometimes I think OBL and GW must have gone to the same school for bullshitters. They tell the same types of self serving lies, blame the other for all of their problems and are willing to kill as many innocent, uninvolved people as it takes to get at the other. WHY!? WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE?! Neither one has any regard for life and I swear at times that they are a fabricated juxtaposition of icons elevated before us to draw attention away from something far more sinister.

But maybe I'm just paranoid...

:tinfoilhat:

[Pastiche423]

20. And maybe Osama is dead

and someone else wants the attention deverted.

[pinniped]

27. Oh boy, are they gonna pacify Darfur?

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