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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:52 AM
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Plane breaking DC airspace -- breaking now (11:50 am et)
CNN...

they said that and then went into an ad!

:wtf: ???
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:53 AM
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1. Now they're showing Bush landing in AK
Ok, they're going to the Pentagon.

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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:55 AM
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4. It happened 30 minutes ago
Jets were scrambled. Plane didn't have transponder activated. Private plane and they ended up following orders once they were contacted. Plane is being sent to a private airport.

Now back to talking about men wearing skits (movie tie-in).
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:00 PM
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5. weird--they scrambled jets now
but why no jets scrambled when FOUR PLANES WERE MISSING on 9/11....hmmm...

Some people have said that there are no scrambleable jets near DC, that's why none were scrambled for the pentagon plane and the one that crashed in Pennsylvania.....hmmmm.....
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knowledgeispower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:10 PM
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8. How utterly ridiculous
Some people have said that there are no scrambleable jets near DC, that's why none were scrambled for the pentagon plane and the one that crashed in Pennsylvania

I know YOU aren't saying that this is true, but the very fact that ANYONE would believe this is just beyond me. If you were going to have the capability of scrambling jets to intercept hijacked planes, the heart of the nation's capital (DC) is the first fucking place that would have such a capability. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that the gov't would just leave the White House, Pentagon, etc. undefended for...for what reason? What a bunch of hooey.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:45 PM
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13. they did on 9/11
for what reason? look at iraq
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:23 PM
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16. Whoooboy
Do you have some reading and research to do.

Yeah, the scrambled planes on 9-11. What, about an hour after the first plane hit, IIRC.

Check out CooperativeReserach and UnansweredQuestions. Use Google.

Eloriel
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:16 PM
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12. Before 9/11, the official Andrews Airforce website
contained a mission statement which said the base had "combat units in the highest possible state of readiness."

Immediately after 9/11, the website went down. When it came back up on Sept 13, that phrase was missing.

The archived pre-Sept 13 mission statement can be viewed here:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/60001.php

http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/update630.htm
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/48/32/200306051312.263f1d60.html
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:33 PM
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17. Yes, Andrews had a TAC wing
Fighter jets.
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:06 PM
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7. "men wearing skits"?!?
Is that some new Monty Python merchandise? ;-)
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:19 PM
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15. Happens ALL THE TIME
You can visit PilotsForDean.com for some discussion of this very issue -- see the "TFRs" section. It's a big deal among pilots. There have been something on the order of 2,500 "incursions" into the DC/Camp David airspace.

An "incursion" is an "unauthorized" entry by an aircraft into that airspace. Each one triggers a whole sequence of costly events. All of them are (obviously) not life threatening, and almost all of them are innocent mistakes. A great deal of them are simply because the government failed to warn pilots in timely fashion that the airspace boundaries changed that day (or hour). Yet pilots risk losing their licenses. (If the Secret Service had its way, there'd be 2,500 pilots sitting in jail right now.)

Of course, the whole idea behind these airspace "boundaries" is flawed. There are no fences in the sky.

Oh, the stories I could tell about how screwed up this whole thing is. Congress is beginning to ask the same questions. Not to mention that that private airplane probably had the destructive power of a Geo Metro in a supermarket parking lot. (In other words, if it crashed, you wouldn't have any idea whether it was intentional or not. Thus it's not a very good weapon of terror. And a whole lot more difficult to use than, say, a rental truck.)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:53 AM
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2. Newsflash: Huge rocks falling from sky, Large cracks appearing in ground!
Film at Eleven after this commercial message from our sponsors...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:06 PM
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6. Another Headline
I actually saw this one on a satire site:

Five Americans Die In Blast
Britain, France also destroyed

--bkl
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knowledgeispower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:11 PM
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9. That is pretty funny
Isn't too far from the truth though. The thing that struck me about CNN's coverage of the major blasts in the Saudi capital was that they were showing all this video of absolute destruction while at the same time reporting that "there may have been Americans present." Umm...whether there were or not, it has far reaching implications for EVERYONE.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:14 PM
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11. The Thing That Struck Me Was...
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 12:25 PM by jayfish
it was 12 hours after the fact and they were treating it like it was LBN. Disgusting.

Jay
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:54 AM
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3.  What's happening? n/t
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:12 PM
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10. it's sweeps month
I'm looking forward to "a very special Crossfire."
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:52 PM
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14. Crossfire?
The program or of war toys?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 04:10 PM
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18. Did Anything Become Of This? -NT-
Jay
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 04:14 PM
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19. Here's a link...
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=797807&tw=wn_wire_story

Saw this story on MSNBC; I think it led the 1/2 hour breaks. Something about Cheney being moved to an undisclosed location (as if he weren't already there)...
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 04:18 PM
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20. Thnx. -NT-
Jay
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 04:54 PM
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21. It's the twins!! They got bored without alcohol!!
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