Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists

[AmyStrange]

Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists
Sat. 7 Jan 2006

Iran Focus

FROM: http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5184
Tehran, Iran, Jan. 07 – An Iranian court has sentenced a teenage rape victim to death by hanging after she weepingly confessed that she had unintentionally killed a man who had tried to rape both her and her niece.

The state-run daily Etemaad reported on Saturday that 18-year-old Nazanin confessed to stabbing one of three men who had attacked the pair along with their boyfriends while they were spending some time in a park west of the Iranian capital in March 2005.

Nazanin, who was 17 years old at the time of the incident, said that after the three men started to throw stones at them, the two girls’ boyfriends quickly escaped on their motorbikes leaving the pair helpless.

She described how the three men pushed her and her 16-year-old niece Somayeh onto the ground and tried to rape them, and said that she took out a knife from her pocket and stabbed one of the men in the hand.

READ THE REST: http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5184

[Lefty48197]

1. They are animals.

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[OKthatsIT]

5. So are the Bushies...dont forget...this is a bogus website.

[AmyStrange]

15. Bogus site maybe but other sites have this news item also...

http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20060108-092739-1620r
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1859493,00.html

[Media_Lies_Daily]

35. And where did the story originate? Do you have that information, too?

[lumpy]

44. Iran Focus is a non-profit on-line

blog. No other info regarding who authors or sponsors it. Few news stories are credited (AP, Reuters, etc). No way to check accuracy of the stories.

[AmyStrange]

60. It originated from...

the state-run (Iran I assume) Etemad newspaper:

FROM: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060107/wl_mideast_afp/iranjusticewomen_060107092713
"he woman identified only as Nazanin claimed self defence during her trial after she stabbed a man to death in March 2005, the Etemad newspaper reported Saturday."

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[lumpy]

48. Mid-East Times is Jordanian news

new24 could be anyone (unknown)

[BrotherBuzz]

31. Iran Focus has a bias and an agenda but it's not bogus news

'We hope our services give you a new perspective on major developments in the region.'

[still_one]

57. that may be a bogus website, and that story may not be accurate

but a few days ago an afgan teacher was beheaded because he was educating females students. The taliban was never the symbol of freedom and neither is the theocratic leadership in Iran

things like this do happen. A father in Pakistan turned in his own daughter because she had an adulterus affair, and she was subsequently executed

To deny these things do NOT happen is equally bad.

[enigma000]

2. I can't wait for Iran to get nukes

Should be a blast.......... /:sarcasm:

[Burning Water]

24. Well, it looks

like it's gonna happen. What should be done about it?

[enigma000]

30. I don't know

But a strongly worded letter from the UN may not be the answer. What are we left with? Invasion, selective bombing, sanctions, threats, appeasement, or surrender. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

36. Let's discuss it in ten years when they finally develop that capability.

[Burning Water]

62. Well,

I may be reading from tainted sources, but my understanding is that they will have the capability within the year, even 6 months. Assuming that is so, for the sake of argument, what should be done? Realizing that it is GWB* that will have to do it, as impeachment will not happen before 2007 and then only if a Democratic Congress is installed.

[bananas]

73. Assume you drank the kool-aid

What should be done?
What is the antidote?

[OKthatsIT]

3. Is this an US American propaganda site?

Its a weird news site, if its not propaganda.

[AmyStrange]

12. Don't know....

But this has been reported on other websites:

http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20060108-092739-1620r
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1859493,00.html

[lumpy]

49. Mid-East Times is a Jordanian news outlet

new24 (unknown) could be anyone

[Surya Gayatri]

4. And this is the form

of theocratic government we have visited upon Iraq. :wtf:

[HawkerHurricane]

27. Worse...

this is the sort of theocracy they'd like to impose HERE.

[ECH1969]

6. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are just as bad as Iran

when it comes to human rights and women's right. Both are non-existant.

[DBoon]

37. and Pakistan already has nukes, too

why worry about Iran?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. I worry more about the fact that the NeoCons control the U. S. nukes,.....

...and have stated that they will not hesitate to use preemptive nuclear attacks.

[DBoon]

59. I agree with you there

nt

[Kipling]

65. Pakistan is not THAT bad.

Bad, yes, but there's still a world of difference.

[wellst0nev0ter]

7. Jesus

What makes me wonder that if they had been raped they would still be hanged?

[Burning Water]

26. Probably, for

committing adultery.

[Silverhair]

56. No. Then their family is expected to kill them as an "honor killing". NT

[Vickers]

8. In their "About Us" page they say they are "fair and balanced"

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/xoopsfaq/index.php?cat_id=1#1

:eyes:

[Deja Q]

11. Their article on the incident lacks emotion or opinion.

THAT is journalism; to have no input one way or the other.

If they are related to FOX, then how come the article isn't full of editorializing?

[reichstag911]

9. Another faith-based initiative. nt

[Deja Q]

10. A sentence of death for self-defense? Or "AN EYE FOR AN EYE",

which is a Christian mantra?

It's extreme, obviously. Especially when their fuck buddies (who are in no sense of the word "boyfriends") ditched 'em.

Still, it's a male-centric society. Of course they will be misogynist, even when the women did not wrong.

They are animals, little better than our own. No civilization worth the epithet "civilization" would condone such brutality done in the name of SELF-DEFENSE.

Should she have been raped instead? (in which case she'd probably get put to death too, no doubt.)

[sasha031]

13. I would recheck the sources on this

this could be propaganda,

[AmyStrange]

16. Other sites with this news item...

http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20060108-092739-1620r
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,6119,2-10-1462_1859493,00.html

[sasha031]

23. I am not saying it's not possible

there is a propaganda campaign going for the upcoming war. the Mullahs in Iran are maniacs, they have hung young gay people also, it's horrible.

I have often thought, had we not bombed the hell out of Iraq the moderates would have won in the last Iranian election.


http://www.inthesetimes.com/

[AmyStrange]

28. Or maybe...

like someone else said in this very thread that, it's not an example of a bad Iran that we need to bomb, but rather an example of how bad things can get when religious extremist control the courts or politics in general,

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[sasha031]

33. you bet Amy

we have the Mullahs (christian right) in this country that are envious of the Iranians. Oh how they would love to bring back the good old days when they could hang anyone they chose. Our country has been plagued by right wing extremist, from the puritans on.

the saying that religion is the opiate of the masses. I was always under the impression that an opiate would be a feel good thing. these people have so much hate.

[AmyStrange]

19. More sources...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060107/wl_mideast_afp/iranjusticewomen_060107092713
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/1/7cfa38f1-1fa9-4ea1-a20b-edda613c1a50.html
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2006/January/middleeast_January175.xml§ion=middleeast&col=

[bloom]

32. I have no idea

if it is true or not. But you do have to keep in mind that US DoD pays for and/or creates stories in papers over there that are then picked up worldwide. That is part of their plan.



It's what the Rendon group gets paid for - per the Rolling Stone article:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8798997?rnd=1136745010988&has-player=unknown

The Man Who Sold the War
Meet John Rendon, Bush's general in the propaganda war

....The fabrication might have ended there, the tale of another political refugee trying to scheme his way to a better life. But just because the story wasn't true didn't mean it couldn't be put to good use. Al-Haideri, in fact, was the product of a clandestine operation -- part espionage, part PR campaign -- that had been set up and funded by the CIA and the Pentagon for the express purpose of selling the world a war. And the man who had long been in charge of the marketing was a secretive and mysterious creature of the Washington establishment named John Rendon.

Rendon is a man who fills a need that few people even know exists. Two months before al-Haideri took the lie-detector test, the Pentagon had secretly awarded him a $16 million contract to target Iraq and other adversaries with propaganda. One of the most powerful people in Washington, Rendon is a leader in the strategic field known as "perception management," manipulating information -- and, by extension, the news media -- to achieve the desired result. His firm, the Rendon Group, has made millions off government contracts since 1991, when it was hired by the CIA to help "create the conditions for the removal of Hussein from power." Working under this extraordinary transfer of secret authority, Rendon assembled a group of anti-Saddam militants, personally gave them their name -- the Iraqi National Congress -- and served as their media guru and "senior adviser" as they set out to engineer an uprising against Saddam. It was as if President John F. Kennedy had outsourced the Bay of Pigs operation to the advertising and public-relations firm of J. Walter Thompson.

"They're very closemouthed about what they do," says Kevin McCauley, an editor of the industry trade publication O'Dwyer's PR Daily. "It's all cloak-and-dagger stuff."

Although Rendon denies any direct involvement with al-Haideri, the defector was the latest salvo in a secret media war set in motion by Rendon. In an operation directed by Ahmad Chalabi -- the man Rendon helped install as leader of the INC -- the defector had been brought to Thailand, where he huddled in a hotel room for days with the group's spokesman, Zaab Sethna. The INC routinely coached defectors on their stories, prepping them for polygraph exams, and Sethna was certainly up to the task -- he got his training in the art of propaganda on the payroll of the Rendon Group. According to Francis Brooke, the INC's man in Washington and himself a former Rendon employee, the goal of the al-Haideri operation was simple: pressure the United States to attack Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein....

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There have also been other articles in the New York Times - Re: the Lincoln group:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/02/politics/02propaganda.html?pagewanted=print

January 2, 2006
Muslim Scholars Were Paid to Aid U.S. Propaganda

By DAVID S. CLOUD and JEFF GERTH
WASHINGTON, Jan. 1 - A Pentagon contractor that paid Iraqi newspapers to print positive articles written by American soldiers has also been compensating Sunni religious scholars in Iraq in return for assistance with its propaganda work, according to current and former employees.

The Lincoln Group, a Washington-based public relations company, was told early in 2005 by the Pentagon to identify religious leaders who could help produce messages that would persuade Sunnis in violence-ridden Anbar Province to participate in national elections and reject the insurgency, according to a former employee....

[Media_Lies_Daily]

38. Bingo. Dead on. More propaganda for the easily influenced.

[Marie26]

52. But that's in Iraq

And the stories those articles are talking about were all feel-good stories about how wonderful things are going in Iraq, etc. While I guess it's possible the Rendon group is operating in Iran as well, the US has much less influence there. Besides, the sad truth is that oppression of women is a common theme in the Mideast, and not something they would choose for propaganda. It doesn't directly threaten us, so most Americans don't care much. If they really wanted propaganda, they'd be claiming Iran already has nukes or something. Women have almost zero rights in Iran & are regularly sentenced to death by stoning for adultery. I don't think that's all propaganda. http://www.wfafi.org/

[bloom]

63. I am completely sympathetic

to the plight of women around the world.

It is interesting that in Iraq - women professors/professionals were pretty common before the US got involved over there.


It's just that now that we are in ramp-up-to-war-against-Iraq mode - and knowing what the US has done PR-wise in the past - that you can't assume anything is true.

And I do think PR people could figure they would get quite a bit of sympathy from American women, esp. with this story - if that's what it is. And some men as well.

I got some right-wingers recently trying to convince me of the badness of (ie. so it's ok to go to war against) Iran due to their treatment of women.

Well - women don't treated very well in wars, either. Esp. when their house is being bombed. And I don't think the US military/DoD are really that concerned about recreating the countries to make them better for women.

[Peace Patriot]

14. I am suspicious of ANY anti-Iran stories right now--so suspicious that it

would not surprise me at all to find out that this and other stories like it are made up out of whole cloth. Please don't forget about the "incubator babies" that Iraqi troops in Kuwait were supposed to have unplugged--a complete and total lie, fabricated by a rightwing think tank in DC. It is simply classic warmongering strategy to demonize the "enemy" whose oil you want to steal by massive violence. Haven't we learned that yet?

[LisaL]

17. Even if it this story is true, what would our solution be?

Let's go over there and bomb the hell out of them? These way, poor teenage girls can be murdered by our bombs and not hanged? Should we be helping Iran the way we are helping Iraq?

[jobycom]

22. I was thinking that, too. The Hussein "human shredders" were false, too

We don't know enough about the details we are given here. Was there more to the story? Was there anything to the story? There are few details, names or places given in this story (all three links so far have the same basic details).

There is a definite push on to dehumanize Iran. From the "holocaust myth" stories to this one, someone wants us to hate Iran. We should ask who. The story may well be true, but there are horrifying examples from our own nation, too. Mentally retarded people being executed, convictions on the flimsiest of evidence (including the death penalty). We could pick and choose news stories to make the US look uncivilized, as well.

I'm not defending Iran or condemning the US, I'm just pointing out that stories like this are being released now to create an image in our minds, in obvious preparation for something else. War, no doubt. We must bomb Iran to protect these innocent young women.

[saskatoon]

76. A voice of reason

You hit the nail on the head.We know Bush wants to start bombing Iran and he is trying to make the U.S. public infuriated by the thought of what happens in this case ( if there is any truth in the story at all)re the woman who was raped. As far as "several" sources----you know how rumors are sent far and wide and picked up on and elaborated on and the herd mentality does the rest.

[xchrom]

18. while some muslim countries can very extreme about these issues

remember we are turning back roe v wade one state, one county, one city at a time.

we just made illegal for service men to attend the company of a prostitute.

we let jerry falwell crow to teh world that 9-11 was the fault of gay folk and FEMINISTS.

and on and on.

liberals must vigilent when it comes to this stuff -- and make sure our outrage is focused.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

20. This is not an anti-Iran story...

This is an anti-religious extremist story. Tales like this exemplify our need to ensure that religious extremists do not take over this country. The obsession that they have for controlling women's reproductive choices is only the tip of the iceberg.

[jobycom]

25. Check out the Bible's Deutoronomy. Wonder how many Fundies support this?

Remember, Fundies believe this is God's law, to be followed to the letter.

Deutoronomy 22

13 If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, "I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity," 15 then the girl's father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. 16 The girl's father will say to the elders, "I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, 'I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.' But here is the proof of my daughter's virginity." Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the girl's father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

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Nice, isn't it? The girl must marry the man who raped her, unless her father has sold her previously to another customer.

[tatertop]

54. That old time religion, it's not good enough for anyone.

Except maybe Satan.

[Marie26]

58. Not many, I'd hope

You don't see the fundamentalists mentioning these passages much, even though they're happy to quote chapter & verse on an issue that suits them. This is actually the first time I've read all of that. It's so sad to see how misogyny is so much a part of this "religious" text.

[ConcernedCanuk]

53. Dear Goddess - I think you may have missed the obvious . .

.
.
.

Religious Extremists are already at the helm in the USA

have been since 2000 - at least in the open

They have been behind the scenes for decades . . .

One of the few accurate honest words of Junior was when he declared his "Crusade"

And the East responded with it's "Jihad"

so the USA literally asked for trouble

and re-elected the trouble-maker

so they deserve it . .

That's my Canuk view anyways . . . .

(sigh)

[Sarah Ibarruri]

21. The U.S. put the religious extremists in IRAN and now put them in IRAQ

Where is it going to stop? When will the U.S. stop f*cking with other countries in this manner?

[skooooo]

29. Nice boyfriends...

...I think I would have gone after them as well.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

40. If what I suspect is true about this story, you'd be going after phantoms.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

34. Were any babies taken out of incubators? Did the girls have WMDs?....

...What else will find it's way into the media to influence the opinions of those Americans that are easily influenced?

[Earth_First]

41. Is this the same pre-Iraq occupation type propaganda?

Remember when it was Saddam's rape and torture prisons that we were liberating the Iraqi people of?

So now Iran needs to be 'liberated' too?

How many times can they recycle the same Propaganda and still fool the sheep?

It's almost as though they are using 'form headlines' now...

" ________ determined to ________ " fill in the blank(s)

[Selteri]

42. Barbaric NT

[fujiyama]

43. Why are people so doubtful of the veracity of this?

I understand the propaganda aspect of this, but this is nothing new to Iran, and these kind of things occur frequently in backwards assed Islamist countries like Iran, Paakistan, and Saudi Arabia.

And, while I know Bush is a crazy psychopath, maybe, just maybe, there are incidents that have little to do with him. Women's rights are nonexistant in the Islamic world, and to compare the threat of repeaelin Roe v Wade to actually executing a rape victim, is well, stupid.

I suppose this can be seen as propaganda but I find it foolish to immediately say "but we have fundies too".

[liberalpragmatist]

46. Thank you

I find the reaction to stories like this really immature when people's only response is to say "we've done the same thing" or "we've done worse things." You see it constantly when someone posts something about terrorism or human rights abuses. And it's so besides the point. Nobody on this board is blind to US faults, and by dismissing abuses outside the U.S. we are doing the exact same thing as people who dismissed Abu Ghraib by saying that what the terrorists did was worse, only in reverse.

Human rights abuses and the killing of innocent civilians is wrong ANYWHERE. Period.

[rpannier]

70. Agreed 100%

[barb162]

47. I don't doubt it, see my link below

Women's rights are in shambles in Iran

[qazplm]

50. yeah it surprises me too

just because our administration lies doesnt mean that there isnt evil in the rest of the world. Nor should we assume evil things ONLY flow from the united states.

Evil exists all over, and these kind of stories are WHOLLY consistant with the uber-extremist islam practiced by Iran today especially with the new hardline leadership. This individual story may or may not be true, but the idea that its not very likely or is propoganda is a bit of a stretch.

It bothers me a bit sometimes to see posters on here so aggressive in their anger against this administration that they believe that not only can america do no right, but that no one else can do any wrong.

[JerseygirlCT]

51. Yup. The enemy of our enemy is NOT our friend

Just because Bush and Co. are evil bastards doesn't improve Iran in the least.

This despicable behavior is rampant in that part of the world. What's worse is that we put up with it, with very little public outcry. Oh well, things happen in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and Afghanistan, but they're our buddies right? What are a few vicious misogynistic state-sponsored murders between friends?

This is vile -- wherever it happens.

[Marie26]

55. Exactly

It's a weird sense of egocentricism, like all bad things in the world must connect back to the US or Bush. There's plenty of evil in the world that has nothing to do with the US. Iran is actually not even the worst when it comes to women's rights.

[barb162]

45. Iran: Woman sentenced to be buried up to chest and stoned to death

I believe the story about this poor teenage girl as shown in Iranfocus and the other similar stories such as this one posted below that are coming out of Iran



http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/press/15835.shtml

Iran: Woman sentenced to be buried up to chest and stoned to death
An Iranian woman facing execution by stoning for adultery is believed to still be alive, even though the sentence was reportedly due to have been carried out on Tuesday 21 December.

Hajieh Esmailvand’s death sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court last month. Her unnamed co-defendant is at risk of imminent execution by hanging. Amnesty International members have been faxing urgent appeals to the Iranian authorities, calling for the execution to be stopped, and the organisation believes there is still time for supporters to take action, to save Hajieh Esmailavand’s life.

News reports, in addition to women’s rights websites in Iran, suggest that the judiciary has confirmed that Hajieh Esmailvand is in detention, and that her execution has not been carried out. The judiciary is reportedly considering the method of execution and Amnesty International hopes that this means it will reconsider the sentence itself in accordance with Iran’s international obligations.

According to reports, Hajieh Esmailvand was sentenced to five years’ imprisonment, to be followed by execution by stoning, for adultery with an unnamed man who at the time was a 17-year-old minor. Although the exact date of her arrest and trial are not known, it is reported that she has been imprisoned in the town of Jolfa, in the north west of Iran, since January 2000.
snip

[QC]

71. I guess this means that Amnesty is a BFEE/Neocon front group now!

;-)

[rpannier]

74. Of course they are

The stories of atrocities by Iran are all part of an International Conspiracy concocted by the Tri-lateral Commission, in conjunction with AI, the Neocons, the Jordanian Government, the University of California-Santa Barbara, Greenpeace, the Governments of the UAE and Jordan with the help of the reverse Vampires.

[barb162]

75. HAHAHAHHA

:hi:

It's an extremely serious subject, but I gotta laugh at the way you put that. Thanks

[Rex]

61. So they boys left them high and dry.

Cowards. I doubt this story is propaganda, this is theocratic law in action. Since women are pretty much considered worthless in paternalistic-theocratic countries, then this comes as no surprise to me. When you have laws that are inflexible and date back to 900 A.D., well, this is the kinda shit you get.

[barb162]

64. another link from Amnesty Intl.:16 yr. old Iranian girl hanged

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/press/15557.shtml

"snip
“The killing of Ateqeh Rajabi reads like a catalogue of the most appalling human rights violations. The public hanging of a child, believed to be mentally incompetent, after a trial in which she reportedly had no lawyer, and all for the crime of ‘acts incompatible with chastity’. It totally beggars belief
snip"

[agincourt]

66. This is what you get,

when clerics corrupt your legal system. Case exhibit A for the seperation of church and state. Churches and Courts corruption is multiplied when they work together. This is why we don't want religion in our government places, too many taliborg in this country who would hang people for blue laws if they could.

[Lost-in-FL]

67. US in 2055

That how its going to be like.

[HuffleClaw]

68. i'm waiting for an 'incubator' story

but this is pretty close. expect a FLOOD of such 'atrocity' tales before the real march to war begins.

[QC]

69. Do you honestly think the government of Iran wouldn't do this?

They certainly don't have any qualms about hanging gay teenagers, another story that was dismissed here as Bushevik propaganda.

[rpannier]

72. Check out the Amnesty International website on atrocities committed by

Iran. Unless you believe AI is part of the great conspiracy.

[Moderator]

77. Lock

I'm sorry to lock this. I'm sure the original poster had no idea, but this source is not acceptable for LBN.

The site has a strong bias and lack of professional editorial background
It is a blog pretending to be a news website.

Mo Jazayeri, the editor, until quite recently was working at Euro-Mideast Language Solutions and does not appear to have a journalistic background. He also appears to be doing nothing more than translating material from other sources which are not explicitly named.

Added to this that the first main mention of Iranfocus.com was the claim that the current President of Iran was one of the hijackers and every other story to come out has been uniquely focused on being critical of Iran suggests this site has only a political agenda. This is reinforced by their lack of a masthead (who are they? No contact information, no phone numbers, no bureau).