Feingold won't rule out Bush impeachment

[UpInArms]

http://www.vermontguardian.com/local/012006/FeingoldVisit.shtml

BURLINGTON — If Pres. George Bush broke laws when ordering wiretaps and secret spying on U.S. citizens, a key Senate Democrat said he would not rule out calling for his impeachment.

"I think there is an orderly and dignified way to find out what happened," said Russ Feingold of Wisconsin. "And, if there was a legal violation there needs to be accountability ... you can't put the cart before the horse, but I would not rule out any form of accountability."

That would include impeachment, Feingold told reporters.

<snip>

Asked by a supporter whether there was a way citizens could impeach Bush "here and now," Feingold said he first wants to hear the administration's justification for conducting domestic surveillance before determining what, if any, punishment should occur.

Once that is known he said, there should be accountability. "I'm not going to prejudge what that accountability should be."

...more...

[still_one]

1. why are there so few Democrats with courage?

[SushiFan]

4. There ARE PLENTY courageous, Dems, this ball is rolling!! nm

[still_one]

6. maybe now that the administrations poll numbers are down

but when it really counted there was just a handful

[SushiFan]

9. It STILL counts, even now.

Just BELIEVE and it will happen.

[ClassWarrior]

21. Amen. When the people lead...

...the leaders follow.

NGU.

[Jawja]

17. Yes and some Senate Repugs

are very angry with him as well because he's made it clear that he is going to ignore the ban on torture that McCain, Warner and Graham engineered. I believe he is going to overreach to the point where his own party sees the need to get rid of him.

[Trevelyan]

35. Most Important Impeachment Petition/Letter by Rep. Conyers EVER!!

Congressman Conyers has used the Impeach-Word several times in his proposed Impeachment Inquiry and has several other members of the House of Representatives as co-sponsors but needs more and has asked for our help in signing his letter to Bush and in writing to our Congresscritters to request they support him in investigating the Bush Regime's massive illegal activities harming the American people. Please add your signature here:

http://www.johnconyers.com/ - Conyer's Action Items
http://www.conyersblog.us

"Join me, below, in sending the:

Letter Advising the President of Censure
and
Steps to Begin Special Committee Investigation

Dear Mr. President:

We are brave, proud, patriotic citizens of the United States. We love our country and are writing to express our profound disappointment with you and your administration for your conduct surrounding the Iraq War, the collection and use of intelligence, and your disrespect for the laws of this great nation..."

[jazzjunkysue]

29. Here's a quick, free, easy way to do something that will help. Make a call

Join PDA's National Call for Accountability January 9th Supporting Rep. Conyers


This is Laura Flanders at the Town Hall Meeting in Brooklyn yesterday.

http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/callalert/index.tt?alertid=...

Support Bush & Cheney Censure

Help PDA answer Rep. Conyers' call by participating in our National Call for Accountability Day on January 9th. Tens of thousands of PDA members and other concerned citizens will call Members of Congress, urging them to cosponsor three bills: H.Res.635 to create a select committee to investigate and to make recommendations on grounds for impeachment, H.Res.636 to censure Bush, and H.Res.637 to censure Cheney.

This is EASY! No money. No marching. Just pick up the phone. This will make a difference, and John Conyers is asking for our help. Let's give it to him.

Call your Congressperson. The link above will take you to your rep's number. This will take just a couple minutes and it could save your country.

I spent 4 hours on trains yesterday getting myself to Brooklyn to attend the Town Hall Meeting. All I'm asking in return is one phone call, urging your congressperson to support bills H.Res.635, H.Res.636, and H.Res.637, to investigate and censure and impeach Bush and Cheney.

If you really care, you'll make this call. No excuses. This is a representative government, and your call will really help put pressure on the GOP, EVEN IF this resolution doesn't pass. How many times have you said "The Dems never do anything?" Well, we're the dems, and we've got to do something.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Please follow that link and make the call. Please keep this kicked.

Amen.


http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6537

[AuntiBush]

32. This Post Deserves its own Separate Post!

:thumbsup:

They'll be hearing from me in the morning, as usual.

Thanks, After Downing Street group!

[Kahuna]

10. I think the reason is.. The Dems don't want the '06 elections to hinge..

on impeachment. In other words, they don't want to make the elections a referendum on impeachment. Yet, if a few members state that it is a possibility should the Dems take control, the thought is out there if things get so henious by the times the elections roll around that the sentiment for impeachment is widespread. Heh? I hope this makes sense to you because I've left myself slightly confused. :silly:

[ray of light]

13. that is such b.s.! Dems are all over this.more dem bashing w/o facts

[Voltaire99]

42. Courage doesn't bring in the corporate loot...

...on which this party has grown obscenely fat.

We won't get a courageous Democratic Party until we scour ourselves of the current leadership and build a populist platform designed to serve all people--not merely the richest.

Meanwhile, go Russ! Show your sold-out peers how it's done!

[babylonsister]

2. Good. Now, Sen. Feingold, pls. go talk to Rep. Moran. nt

[slor]

3. Can we stop this Hillary talk and make him our nominee NOW!

No more of rethug lite. NO MORE! We need populist progressives fighting for the people!

[still_one]

7. He is my nominee, I don't care what the DLC says

Of course there are other people I will consider also, but NOT repug lite candidates

[rodeodance]

44. He is my Senator.

[leftchick]

12. He is my nominee. The DLC can eat shit..

:loveya: Russ...

[radio4progressives]

23. Hear! Hear! Go Russ Feingold!

:bounce::woohoo::applause::toast::yourock::toast::applause::woohoo::bounce:

[ClassWarrior]

30. Russ does rock, doesn't he?

NGU.

[grateful581]

55. I Second that!

[onehandle]

5. 2006 Democratic Congress = 2007 Impeachment. nt

[still_one]

8. only if we can insure that the voting system works

[onehandle]

15. That assumption is built into my statement. nt

[Greeby]

16. Well, you can if you live in CA. NC or CT

They've all told Diebold to piss off :bounce:

http://www.bradblog.com

[AuntiBush]

33. I Think You've Got it!

Good call, onehandle. Ya just gotta believe and have faith.

[Canuckistanian]

11. Wow, what a courageous stand

That's the difference bteween Republicans and Democrats.

Republicans would have been frothing at the mouth, screaming from the rooftops and agitiating for the death penalty by now.

[zann725]

14. Let's hear it for Russ!! Let's keep the "I" word out there at ALL times.

No surrender.

[LynnTheDem]

18. But lying Americans to war, to their deaths, (let alone non-USers) is ok.

And so many Americans wonder why we're so hated by the rest of the world...

[AndyTiedye]

25. Not OK, But More Difficult to Prove

To prove that Bush** lied about the war shouldn't be too difficult,
but the case on the NSA spying is open-and-shut, because ** confessed to the crime already.

Bush** has admitted to impeachable offenses in front of the entire nation.
It only remains for Congress to do its duty.

After he is impeached, the matter of the Iraq war, and the criminal conspiracy leading up to it,
should be adjudicated by this body:

[WhiteTara]

19. this makes me feel better. Jim Moran says

that "it ain't gonna happen". But we as citizens have the power to change that. Saw him on CSPAN. great questions, but no one asked about election fraud. We can vote all day long, but if the machines give the win to the repukes, what do we do? So far, it's been a big nothing.
:hi:

[IChing]

20. Nominate for profiles in courage - Go Russ

I want more of my Democratic Senators to take this stand
2006 baby, We have to take back the house.
Go Russ.

[cascadiance]

34. Sibel Edmonds gets my vote here! But Russ would be a close second!

Either Pelosi in 2007 or Feingold in 2008!

[ClassWarrior]

22. K&R

NGU.

[radio4progressives]

24. Just going to post this article - glad to see UpInArm beat me to it!

:kick::hi:

:bounce::woohoo::applause::toast::yourock::toast::applause::woohoo::bounce:

[Kurovski]

26. When you take the emotion out of it, impeachment is just

part of the job. That job being the protection of the Constitution.

Feingold is appropriately cautious. It's a serious matter, although many too many anti-American, Constitution-loathing Republicans see it merely as a political tool.

[ClassWarrior]

27. But it IS a political tool. That's one of the most lasting things...

...I took away from the RW's attempted coup on the Clinton Presidency. The founders consciously made IMPEACHMENT a political process - vesting the charging with the House and the conviction with Senate. They did not make it an impartial (that is, judicial) process.

NGU.

[Demeter]

28. I Should HOPE Not!

[bobthedrummer]

31. Who else believes no one is above the law?

[Trevelyan]

36. I believe no one is above the law - one of the talking points of the MSM

has been "What will other countries think if bushco is indicted." Patrick Fitzgerald addressed this in his speech when he said that other countries will see that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW in America.

Recommended. Impeachment must be mentioned again and again - See Downfall of a Dictator on PBS site - the CIA helped engineer the relatively peaceful downfall of Milosivec with simple statements like "He's finished" that everyone repeated and a simple stencil with a fist that people could use to show their opposition. The CIA with their MK-ULTRA should know how to bring down a government and the media is starting use the I-word, so keep repeating it!!

:patriot: :patriot: :kick:

[beltanefauve]

56. What you said about Fitzgerald

Patrick Fitzgerald addressed this in his speech when he said that other countries will see that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW in America.

And that was the amazing thing to other countries when Richard Nixon stepped down. The public wanted impeachment, his own party asked him to resign, and so it was. A President was removed from power and NOT A SINGLE SHOT WAS FIRED. THIS is what Democracy looks like! There is no shame in calling for impeachment when our pResident took an oath to defend the Constitution, and violated that oath.

[rodeodance]

37. Feingold[Dem, WI] says impeachment a possibility

http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20060108-103450-5665r.htm

Feingold says impeachment a possibility

Jan. 8, 2006 at 10:52PM

U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., says he would not rule out calling for impeachment of President Bush over secret wiretaps and spying on U.S. citizens.

"I think there is an orderly and dignified way to find out what happened," Feingold told an audience in Burlington, Vt., Saturday. "And, if there was a legal violation there needs to be accountability ... you can't put the cart before the horse, but I would not rule out any form of accountability."

Feingold was in Vermont to stump for independent Rep. Bernie Sanders, who is running for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by retiring Jim Jeffords, the Vermont Guardian reported.

Asked by a supporter whether there was a way citizens could impeach Bush "here and now," Feingold said he first wants to hear the administration's justification for conducting domestic surveillance before determining what, if any, punishment should occur, the newspaper said. ........

[Child_Of_Isis]

38. he first wants to hear the administration's justification?????

Maybe we the "citizens" no longer care to hear the admin's lies. Does he actually think they will tell the truth?

[rodeodance]

39. we will hear jr's 'justification' through Gonzalas hearing soon (Specter

wrote letter and asked him to the hearing)

[rodeodance]

40. i am glad to see the big "I" word in a headline in WashTIMES!!

[rodeodance]

43. opps.

[gauguin57]

41. Stay out of small planes, Russ!

Russ kicks :kick:

[rodeodance]

45. He is making his opening statement at the Alito hearings right now.

[rodeodance]

46. we need judges who will stand up and tell the Pres when he distorts

the law--says Russ.

[rodeodance]

47. Russ is making overreach of presidental powers his focus.

[rodeodance]

48. now blasting Alito about his not recusing himself after he said he would.

[rodeodance]

49. He says judges are not above the law either --whow.

paraphasing.

[rodeodance]

50. I believe Russ just got on the Judicial committee also

[GoddessOfGuinness]

51. Excellent! n/t

[jazzjunkysue]

52. Are you willing to make one call to make impeachment a reality? Call here.

Join PDA's National Call for Accountability January 9th Supporting Rep. Conyers


This is Laura Flanders at the Town Hall Meeting in Brooklyn yesterday.

http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/callalert/index.tt?alertid=...

Support Bush & Cheney Censure www.congress.org

Help PDA answer Rep. Conyers' call by participating in our National Call for Accountability Day on January 9th. Tens of thousands of PDA members and other concerned citizens will call Members of Congress, urging them to cosponsor three bills: H.Res.635 to create a select committee to investigate and to make recommendations on grounds for impeachment, H.Res.636 to censure Bush, and H.Res.637 to censure Cheney.

This is EASY! No money. No marching. Just pick up the phone. This will make a difference, and John Conyers is asking for our help. Let's give it to him.

Call your Congressperson. The link above will take you to your rep's number. This will take just a couple minutes and it could save your country.

I spent 4 hours on trains yesterday getting myself to Brooklyn to attend the Town Hall Meeting. All I'm asking in return is one phone call, urging your congressperson to support bills H.Res.635, H.Res.636, and H.Res.637, to investigate and censure and impeach Bush and Cheney.

If you really care, you'll make this call. No excuses. This is a representative government, and your call will really help put pressure on the GOP, EVEN IF this resolution doesn't pass. How many times have you said "The Dems never do anything?" Well, we're the dems, and we've got to do something. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Please follow that link and make the call. Please keep this kicked.

Amen.


http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6537

[Tight_rope]

53. Now this is news!...Not that bullshit about fucking useless Cheney!

[The Onyx Key]

54. MONSTER mistake for Dems to make.

None (up for election...especially in a battleground area) will seriously push it this year. The backlash would be too much. There is not nearly enough support out there for impeachment.

[beltanefauve]

57. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! n/t

[The Onyx Key]

58. Nope. That's kinda my point. This won't amount to anything. n/t

[jsamuel]

60. Sorry, but Dems need to fight for their principles whether or not you

think it will hurt them at the polls. That is the biggest complaint I have heard from everyone I know over the last 2 years about Dems.

[The Onyx Key]

61. Perhaps they should. But they won't push this issue hard. n/t

[jsamuel]

62. If, while investigating (as Feingold says), they find out Bush spied on

Democratic Congressmen/Senators or on people connected to the Kerry Campaign before the election in 2004 without a warrant, THEY SHOULD AND WILL push hard for impeachment. I think that is why Feingold is leaving room open for impeachment. If the NSA simply only used this power to spy on real terrorist threats, then at most Bush will get a slap on the wrist and told to stop. If the NSA did spy on Dems or other political enemies of the Bush admin, then all hell will break loose.

[The Onyx Key]

63. Now if THAT can be PROVEN

then you are absolutely right!

[Chicago1]

59. (siiiggghhhh) I"m in LOVE.

Russ Feingold is WONDERFUL. What would we do without him. I wish all the democrats would stand up and say this (HILLARY!!!!!)


THE IMPEACHMENT MUST START NOW!!!!!