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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 10:48 PM
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Atlanta J-C: Reed's fees all paid by casino
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/1105/02reed.html

Looks like the Journal-Constitution got the scoop on this. Also, they mention, although at the end of the article, the "wacko" comments made by DeLay's aide Scanlon.

WASHINGTON Ralph Reed's anti-gambling work in Texas and Louisiana was funded by an Indian tribe that derives all of its income from a single casino, according to U.S. Senate testimony Wednesday.

Reed, the former Christian Coalition leader who is running for lieutenant governor of Georgia, is an avowed opponent of legalized gambling. He has said he never knowingly accepted gambling money.

But Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who hired Reed to manage the campaign, made it clear to Reed that he was working for the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana, according to a Feb. 11, 2002, e-mail released after the hearing.

<SNIP>

In an e-mail sent to Kathryn Van Hoof, a former outside lawyer for the Coushatta tribe, Abramoff's partner, Michael Scanlon, boiled down Reed's importance to the project: "Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them. The wackos get their information the Christian right, Christian radio, e-mail, the Internet and telephone trees," Scanlon wrote.


More can be learned about these memos, and how to contact Christian talk radio about this here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/3/21544/6648

and here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5260863
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 10:50 PM
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1. All Greg Hecht has to do is just say "I'm not Ralph Reed" to win
:popcorn:
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:05 PM
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4. Don't trust Reed to fade away.
He caused Max Cleland to lose by smearing his "patriotism". He calls himself "Stealth" and is proud of his behind-the-scenes roll for the Republican "cause". I'd like to know how much money he earned as a consultant to Enron?
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 10:54 PM
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2. The Wackos LOLOLOLOLOL
These dumb right-wingers let these corporate crooks manipulate their self-righteousness, and Scanlon et al aren't even gracious enough not to refer to them as Wackos. Good, I hope a lot of right-wingers see this, and realize that the GOP does not have the interests of the Lord at heart. Nominated.

Also see

The Jack Abramoff Picture Show
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 11:26 PM
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34. They already know this......
In their denial, they will find someway to take pride in it. maybe start a wacko lobbying group or sumpin'..
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:02 PM
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3. amazing. complete and totally cynical. they are USING the fundamentalists
to do their dirty work. this is going to really play strangely in freeperville. i wonder what complex and neck-breaking twists and turns they'll use to spin this!
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:14 PM
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6. They've been deleting posts about this in freeperville.
Denial is how it's playing over there. What a bunch of blind morons.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:19 AM
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14. Well, anyone who tells the truth over there.........
is considered a troll and they're "ZOTTED". The truth will not be tolerated at freeperville, ardently adhering to the party talking points is mandatory for a successful stay at FR. Do not, under any circumstances, stray from the prescribed propaganda if you wish to remain a freep.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:08 PM
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5. The Religious Right has been used as pawns by the GOP
But then Bill Bennett, spent 8 mil gambling. I'm sure he's a strong backer of Reed. Republicans are true schizoids.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:40 PM
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9. Playing the slot machine is not gambling it is masturbating
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:17 PM
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7. What's a telephone tree? n/t
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:02 AM
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11. Churches use them for prayer chains and info.
The pastor would contact an elder or deacon, then the deacon would call a couple of group leaders under them and they would then call the rest of the congregation (or subgroup leaders if a mega-church).
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:09 PM
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30. Thanks, I had never heard the term before. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:28 PM
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8. I also nominated. Fundies/GOP need to know their mutual use
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 11:28 PM by Erika
Need two more nominations.
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Clyde39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 11:40 PM
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10. The majority of the public needs to be ignorant, according to Scanlon?
Tom DeLay admires men like this since Scanlon was his top aid and spokesman before leaving to be a lobbyist The word "secret" comes to mind----in other words, whatever we can get away with, we'll do. The big smile on DeLay's face is such a sham.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:25 AM
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12. I would say Reed is a dirty mother-f*cker, but that wouldn't be nice
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:43 PM
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33. I would say he's a lying sack of sh*t, but that wouldn't be nice either.
nm
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:38 AM
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13. Somebody send this to the Daily Show!!
and Countdown with KO. (I don't have either of their emails)

This is both sick and funny. I mean, I KNEW the fundies were being exploited by GOP politicians, but I never thought I'd see such glaring evidence of these people's contempt for them. This is their base they're talking about!
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:33 PM
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25. ***Olbermann's e-mail***
[email protected]

I don't know the Daily Show. But anyone who knows should post it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:38 AM
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15. Does everyone see the bigger picture concerning the media and the neocons?
For decades the Republicans have claimed the media was liberally biased. There may have been a touch of truth to that at one point, but since deregulation of the media in the 80s and 90s, the MSM has clearly been conservatively owned and biased. Yet still idiots like Rush and O'Reilly and the rest push the lie that the media is liberal.

Notice the email: "The wackos get their information the Christian right, Christian radio, e-mail, the Internet and telephone trees..."

They don't listen to the mainstream media because the media they do listen to tells them it's biased. THAT is how they control the fundie right, and how they ensure they have a constituency that can't be turned. These are voters who have turned off everything but the little voice which tells them to support BushCo and the right wing.

The rest of the email reveals the rest. They set up these offyear bond elections expecting low general turnout and heavy base turnout. That's how they win their bond packages, their school board positions, etc. THAT's how they win all the local stuff, which allows them to control so much of local government. They suppress the general voter while encouraging this rabid branch of voters.

Kind of like that Jet Li movie, where he was the collar. He's been trained to hear only the voice of his trainer, and to do whatever he says.

All this explains FOX's "Fair and Balanced" slogan or O'Reilly's "No Spin Zone" title and all the other constant digs at the "left wing media." They know it's not true. They aren't trying to convince us, or even moderate independents. They are trying to convince that rabid base, because that allows them to control their minds, and makes sure they have the rabid voting block in place when they need it.

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:46 AM
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17. There is another part to that...
By claiming that the media is liberal, they plant the notion to anyone who would like to consider themselves to be "centrist" or "mainstream", that they must be to the right of the media in order to be in the center. But since the media IS center-to-right anyway, some of these people may end up being conservative- even if they don't call themselves one or recognize it.
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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:43 AM
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16. Just read this in the Al Franken book

I love this story.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:02 AM
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18. Doh
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 11:14 AM by Jose Diablo
"Just wait til I talk to the pastor about this!", says Bobby Lee Ray Jackson.

Edit to add: Too bad the Rocky Mountain News won't run this with ties to Dobsons Focus on the Family.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:07 AM
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19. Jesus saw Ralphie boy from 2,000 years away
On the outside, whitewashed sepulchres look nice, but inside they're filled with corruption and filth. Many will come claiming to speak in Jesus' name, but don't believe them if their actions don't match their words.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:38 AM
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20. And the wacko's say, dum, de dum, de dum....
...Down this way the 'wacko right' still won't bring themselves to believe that they've been, and are being, played for fools. They've already started their 'liberal' newspaper hits on the AJC. Strange to think of it in those terms - after all Ralph McGill's been dead for almost 40 years and the paper's owner's, the Cox family, cornerstone radio station features the likes of Hannity, Savage and is the originating station for Boortz...hardly left-leaning any longer (they too have sold their principles for a few tax cuts).

Regardless, some folks have some semblance of a conscience left and are going to call Reed for what he is. The fact remains that the repigs are beginning to believe that with Reed on the ticket the repigs will lose their asses next year, so wouldn't be surprised that they're the ones behind the effort to ridicule Reed to the point that he'll either go to jail or quit the race 'for the good of the party'.

Regardless, the dems absolutely need to make sure that whoever the repigs put up for office next time, they get painted with the 's**t-ladened' brush that Ralph Reed created. By the way, if it weren't for the fact that it would have been a slap in the face of the gay community here, the SOB would have long since been 'outed'.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:19 PM
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21. A question I want asked of Mr. Reed
"What does it avail a man to gain a fortune and lose his soul?"

I have nothing but contempt for a man who calls himself Christian, turning from the path with such a vengeance.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:28 PM
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22. Couldn't have happened to a nicer fellow....NOT
This is good, but I'm still not convinced that Georgia Republicans are NOT to stupid to still vote for him.

Plus, since Diebold still counts our so-called Vote, he'll still probably win.:banghead: :mad:
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:42 PM
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23. Maybe we should start targeting local pastors with this information
Plenty of fundie churches around here - the types that would have phone trees and "voter guides" for their parishoners. Maybe we should organize lists of pastors of influential churches and send them articles such as this. My mother belongs to one of these churches, and I cannot get through to her any other way. If her church says it, she will never question it. So maybe the thing to do is educate the pastors.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:43 PM
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27. ****CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN CONTACT INFO****
BE POLITE!!! NO HARASSING PHONE CALLS OR E-MAILS!! We are doing these people a service, not rubbing it in their faces!

List of Conservative Christian churches
http://ccccusa.ccccsitelaunch.com/index.cfm/method/content.9C1BA958-5D0D-4C7A-B614656D074C84EF

Radio station locator
http://www.ontheradio.net/Stations.aspx
Find Conservative Christian radio stations in your area and let them know!!

More churches
http://www.biblebb.com/churches.htm

Texas Conservative Churches
http://fishthe.net/pages/Churches/Texas/index.html

More churches
http://directory.crosswalk.com/directory/Churches/Denominations/Disciples_of_Christ/default.aspx

Christian weblogs and news sites!!!!
http://search.crossdaily.com/list.php3?cat=171

Georgia Conservative Homeschool Groups
http://www.home-school.com/groups/GA.html

Contact Away!!!!

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:55 PM
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24. Wow, what a hypocritical douche.
He's almost as bad as Roy Moore.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:10 PM
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36. Yes a "REAL DOUCHE BAG"
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:37 PM
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26. But the really scary thing is...He's Right and It Works
This is all they have to do to win. They've proven it now time and again...it is the modus operandi for the RW...They've just been smart enough not to say it out loud before now.

Gee isn't the truth refreshing?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:47 PM
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28. Check out this Republican/freeper/fundy in denial LTTE in Friday's AJC:
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 03:51 PM by CottonBear
"I can't believe the Atlanta Journal Constitution bashed Ralph Reed again Thursday morning on Page One. It is so obvious what you are trying to do.

Reed may have made some mistakes, but not intentionally. I will vote for him for lieutenant governor, and I hope everyone else does and sees through your attempt to smear him."

Gilda L. McCarty
Acworth (GA)

:eyes: :wtf: :( Really? What is so obvious, Ms. McCarty?
The AJC is simply reporting the truth and the facts and the radical, right wing Reed supporters can't handle the truth. That's what's obvious. I'll bet that this woman watches FOX News Network and listens to WSB 750AM's daily broadcast of Boortz, Hannity and Savage.

(I typed this LTTE verbatim from the Friday nov. 4, 2005 paper that I've got here.)
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:20 PM
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29. Right Winger: "Let's Allow Crooks to Bring Back Integrity to...
the Washington DC. Yeah... that's the ticket."

Naive morans! :mad:
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:45 AM
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31. Kick!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 10:49 AM
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32. an avowed opponent of legalized gambling
But best buds with Bennett an avowed gambler that preaches morality and wants to end crime by aborting black babies...
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:06 PM
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35. Heard Wacko comment on CSPAN
I heard the wacko comment during last weeks cspan coverage of the Abramoff investigation. Shows you what they really think about the C.R. More of them should be aware of this & the fact that they are tools to make others rich.
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