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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:36 PM
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Ariz. Court: Embryo Outside Not 'Person'
PHOENIX (AP) - A days-old human embryo preserved outside the womb isn't a person under the Arizona law that allows lawsuits for wrongful deaths, the Arizona Court of Appeals has ruled.

The ruling stemmed from a lawsuit filed by a Phoenix-area couple against the Mayo Clinic, accusing it of losing or destroying some of their fertilized eggs.

The couple had asked the Court of Appeals to expand the definition of "person" under the wrongful-death statute to include embryos with the potential to be viable, but the court declined, saying it's a matter for the Legislature to decide.

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http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/oct/28/102803902.html
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:38 PM
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1. wow, they did something correct for a change???
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:38 PM
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2. How can you be a "person" if you ...
don't have a brain or a central nervous system? :eyes:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:01 AM
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9. Well you have described most freepers
and legally, despite their absence of higher cerebral functions, they are still considered persons.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:40 PM
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3. i always ask the pro lifers
why no funerals for the miscarried.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:45 PM
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5. Some of those nuts DO have funerals for miscarriages, IIRC.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:48 PM
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6. Santorum takes them home to meet the would-have-been siblings
:(
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:50 PM
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7. You are NOT a nut if you have a funeral for a miscarriage.
Some miscarriages occur well into a pregnancy and the mother and father have invested a lot of emotion and energy into the life entity that the mother is carrying and nurturing in her womb. A funeral helps to provide closure in those instances.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:21 AM
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11. but if you aren't the woman and man involved, and you hold these funerals
you ARE a nutcase, sorry.

just as the people who go to court to get custody of the zygote still in the woman's body are serious nutbars.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 10:08 AM
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13. This is what I was referring to, not the bereaved potential parents.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 10:46 AM
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16. Well, I do agree with that position as you just stated it.
Why don't they hold marriage ceremonies for people "living in sin"?

Thanks for clarifying. :hi:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 10:09 AM
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14. I'm referring to the "every fetus is sacred" crowd, who worship
everyone ELSE'S fetuses.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:03 AM
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10. look up "snowflake babies"
They DO have services for the fertilized zygotes produced as after-effects of in-vitro fertilization.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:43 PM
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4. Yay for sanity.
Thank GOD.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:21 PM
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8. In vitro fertilization
The process that created the embryos in question is called in vitro fertilization (IVF). A five day old embryo is smaller than the period at the end of this sentence. It has no identifying features or hints of a nervous system.

Nearly 400,000 IVF embryos are in storage in the USA. Less than 3 percent have been donated for embryonic stem cell research. Almost as many are designated to be discarded each year. - National Geographic, July 2005
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:43 AM
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12. What about sperm and eggs? Potential human life being murdered?
When is that going to be given legal "person-hood"? It has the potential to be a human. Alls that got to happen is a match up with an egg or sperm. So every time a woman has her period we should have her arrested. And God forbid you masturbate, all teenage boys need to be arrested for murder.:sarcasm:
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Bonescrat Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 10:13 AM
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15. Teenage boys?
Sorry but we don't stop playin with that thing when we turn 20.

:patriot:
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