Christian Leaders Urge Commandments Rally

[kskiska]

Two clergy leaders want to rally hundreds of Christians to kneel around the Ten Commandments monument on display in a Montgomery, Ala., courthouse - an act of civil disobedience they've already tried outside abortion clinics.

Leaders of the National Clergy Council and Christian Defense Coalition unveiled the plans Wednesday at a news conference in front of the Supreme Court, which they noted has a depiction of Moses and the Ten Commandments in its courtroom.

Roy Moore, chief justice of Alabama's Supreme Court, has lost court fights over the 5,300-pound monument he placed in the Montgomery courthouse, but the monument is staying put while he appeals.

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Should Moore fail in his legal efforts, the leaders are asking supporters to go to Montgomery and kneel in front of the monument en masse. They figure they'll have around 48 hours to mobilize if Moore's legal stay allowing him to keep the Commandments is lifted.

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[I AM SPARTACUS]

1. the kneel-in will be joined by Ashcroft...

...he's been awfully quiet lately...

[leesa]

2. They'll chant "thou shall not kill" as they cheer Bush's endless

murderous rampage on. There are only ten of them, can't they just remember them or carry a wallet sized cheat sheet if they can't keep them in mind?

[pasadenademocrat]

3. As a Christian,

Let me apologize for my troubled, and troubling, brethren.

[Rowdyboy]

5. As a Christian, I'm glad they're doing this...

If these fools are kneeling in front of a big ass granite block, they can't be harrassing women visiting abortion clinics, or beating up homosexuals, or "instructing" their womenfolk in their wifely duties, or abusing their children.

A good one-half of them would secretly LOVE to be doing something else entirely while they're down on their knees. Just too cowardly to admit it to themselves.

[atreides1]

21. Correct Me Please

But if they are kneeling before a block of granite, could this not be considered worshipping an idol, and isn't that against one of the commandments.

And for future reference these are not my leaders.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

34. useful prayer: "Dear Lord, protect me from your followers."

Beware the rightous for they will thump you upside your head to get into heaven. "Dad likes me best!"
The US Constitution was supposed to rescue our nation from abusive authority figures-kings and bishops. Nuff said.

[Az]

31. Appology accepted

I know not all believers are cut from the same cloth. I know there are many that value the wall of seperation and are defending it. I appreciate your presense. Thanks

[The Stranger]

37. You consider them Christians?

You're using the term rather loosely wouldn't you think?

[NYC]

4. I think it would be wonderful

to invite the Bush League, and have them stay there until they have memorized:

Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not lie.

(I'm not positive "thou shalt not lie" is one of the ten commandments, but it ought to be.)

[TheReligiousLeft]

6. False witness

Yeah, Bush screwed up, but by now we all knew that.

[NYC]

7. Thank you.

.

[joycep]

8. Like someone else said

I would just like to see certain people following them. I guess they think Moses was given them for everybody to admire.

[theHandpuppet]

10. Yep, it is....

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" is how the commandment is stated. Perhaps if these fundies took the Ten Commandments seriously they would take stock of how many their beloved Bushreich violates on a daily basis!

[JNelson6563]

20. easier to tout them than

to follow them. Crazy hypocrites. My sympathies to all you good and genuine Christians out there.

Julie

[Liberator_Rev]

25. Can I take that personally, Julie ?

Thank you. I wish you the same when looney atheists get loose. Makes you sometimes wonder about the wisdom of freedom of speech, doesn't it? LOL

[northofdenali]

30. Hi Rev - yes, if they all practiced the way you do,

there'd be a lot more Christians than agnostics out there.

Unfortunately, in Montgomery they'll get their crowd. The judge that installed the big block of granite is as crazy as a bedbug, but the Birmingham News letters I've seen show his followers are "faithful".

[theHandpuppet]

28. Blinded by their greed!

As the Apostle Paul also said, "For the love of money is the root of all evil, which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. Shun that, o man of God, aim at integrity, godliness, faith, love, stedfastness, modesty." Timothy (Timotheus) 6:10

For too many so-called Christians, the Ten Commandments do not apply just as long as there's money to be made. This seems to hold true whether we're talking about Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney and Halliburton, or that immoral war for Iraqi oil.

[Atlant]

11. Something about "bear false witness", I think. (NT)

[hang a left]

32. If I remember my sunday school teacher correctly

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor

[booksenkatz]

9. O, the irony

If I recall correctly, when Moses brought the 10 Commandments down from the mountaintop, is it not true that he was greeted by the sight of all the folks kneeling to/worshipping/dancing around false idols? It seems to me (I am no theologian) that these people are in effect worshipping an OBJECT rather than attempting to serve out the commands that their God gave to them. In other words, a huge waste of time. So much energy wasted on an object instead of being used to help clothe the naked and feed the hungry ~ two suggestions from Jesus Christ that today's Christian Right so conveniently forgets about. "No handouts." "No special rights." "Let them pick themselves up by their bootstraps."

What a strange religion. So much fuss over the 10 Commandments, with no inclination whatsoever to live them.

[Atlant]

12. Well, he really brought 15 commandments down...

But the 5 that contained things like "Preserve my creation for all
posterity" and "There's more to my creation than just you!", were on
the tablet that Mel Brooks dropped.

"Oy."

Atlant

[MGKrebs]

13. Just for review:

Here they are. Only four seem to be relevant to common law. The others are purely religious and have no place in government facilities. I would have no problem posting 6,7,8, and 9 only.


ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'

FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'

SIX: 'You shall not murder.'

SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'

EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'

NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

[Atlant]

15. Well, Commandment 1, slightly edited, fits today's government...

Well, Commandment 1, slightly edited, fits today's government
and probably should be posted wherever governments convene, just
as an advisory to the public:

'You shall have no other gods before Me: $$$'

[dusty64]

14. I would really prefer to

have these zealots called what they are. Not Christian, but "American Taliban".

[SharonAnn]

36. I'm partial to the term "Talibornagain"

Somehow, it just kind of wraps it all up for me.

[Mari333]

16. 2 WORDS

National Guard.

[AlabamaYankee]

17. Idolatry and Hubris

It occurs to me that this group (as well as a significant portionof the malAdministrtion, but that's another thread) is commiting two of the greatest sins: idolatry, which is the worship of objects purporting to represent god, rather than god herself; and hubris, the overweening pride that leads to "knowing" the mind and desires of god. The first is covered by the First commandment, ironically enough. The second was a favorite theme fo the Greek tragedians.

This whole situation literally hits close to hmome, since I'm about 60 miles from Montgomery. But also the smug/defensive certainty of these often sincere "Christians" stains the very faith that is at the core of my identity. It grieves me deeply.

[AntiCoup2K4]

18. Bush has broken most, if not all of the Commandments

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

Greed, power, control - these are the gods of the Bush Criminal Empire.

TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

I'm with the Jehova's Witnesses on this one. They refuse to "pledge allegiance" to the flag, considering it to be a "graven image". This fraudministration has made the flag into a symbol of their sick "religion", and some of the sheep who follow them consider you a heretic if you don't worship it as they do.

THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

"God told me to bomb Iraq" - 'nuff said

FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'

Junior bombed Iraq on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, desecrating the Sabbath days of three major religions.

FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'

Poppy reportedly told his idiot son not to go through with this invasion. No idea what "Bar" thought of it.

SIX: 'You shall not murder.'

No clarification needed :grr:


SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'

Ok, this one hasn't been proven......yet.

EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'

I'm assuming this would include elections, as well as oil.

NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

If their lips are moving, they're lying.

TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

Nor his oil, nor his natural gas reserves, nor his ballots......

Maybe someone should carve these facts in stone and place them next to Judge Roy's tablets?

[Liberator_Rev]

27. Great post, AntiCoup2k!

Would you email it to me [email protected] along with info as to the author (if it's not you) ? I'd like to add it to my http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/BushRecord pages.

[mumon]

19. Of course, their inability to tell a lie had nothing to do with

the fact that they left out the part where Roy Moore's courageous stand on the ten commandments was rightfully seen as a money-making stunt by the court that heard the case. Fundraising efforts based on the "defense" of the 10C's were split between Moore (speaking fees...) and D. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church.

Nah, they would have said that, but...

[GreenArrow]

22. It'd be nice if these "Christians" would pay attention

to the Two Commandments posited by Jesus, instead of the Ten Commandments. It's really quite remarkable and telling that every time I ask a fundy type about the two commandments, they don't know what I'm talking about.

Anyone on here know?

[greyl]

24. Love God first & love your neighbor.

I always thought the sermon on the mount carried more weight. :)

[GreenArrow]

26. Well done Grey!

Fundies, and even mainstream Christians don't seem to give much credence to the Beatitudes/Sermon on the Mount either, which is essentially the kernel of what Christianity is.

[Fleshdancer]

23. So would it be in poor taste

to set up a kiosk selling rocks? The banner could read "Cast the first stone! $2/stone"

Just an idea.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

35. see BettyBowers.com for the funniest send-up of wealthy fundie prigs.

Enjoy the flash graphics with little stars turning into crosses. Especially check out the 'how to spot a terrorist' guide that shows what the typical middle-eastern man looks like. Can you guess who you see when you look? Yes, someone you know...

[fshrink]

29. Zyprexa anybody?

nt

[maveric]

33. It would be nice if these 10 commandment supporters would follow the...

comandments.
Arent these the pro-war,pro-death penalty,lieing and theiving repug supporters?
Fucking hypocrites!