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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:35 PM
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NY Times: Jitters at the White House Over the Leak Inquiry
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 09:36 PM by understandinglife
October 14, 2005

Jitters at the White House Over the Leak Inquiry

By Richard W Stevenson


Karl Rove nosed his Jaguar out of the garage at his home in Northwest Washington in the predawn gloom, starting another day in which he would be dealing with a troubled Supreme Court nomination, post hurricane reconstruction and all the other issues that come across the desk of President Bush's most influential aide.

But Mr. Rove's first challenge on Wednesday morning came before he cleared his driveway: how to get past the five television crews and the three photographers waiting for him. He flashed his blinding high beams into the camera lenses and sped by.

That is the way things are for the Bush White House these days. The routines are the same. But everything, in the glare of the final stages of a criminal investigation that has reached to the highest levels of power in Washington, is different.

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The prospect of a White House without Mr. Rove, Mr. Bush's longtime strategist, has some allies of the president in a near panic, fearful that without him the administration would lose the one person capable of enforcing discipline across a party that has become increasingly fractious and that is almost at war with itself over the president's nomination of Harriet E. Miers to the Supreme Court.

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Link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/14/national/14mood.html?ei=5094&en=cb29ff4124169c4e&hp=&ex=1129262400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print


More pablum from the NYTimes.


Peace.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:37 PM
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1. Typical Rove rudeness. Flashing high beams at cameras and people.
Rove wanted to be famous and important and powerful. Well, he got what he wanted. What's his effin' problem?
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:05 AM
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35. I know...
what a rude asscan! :mad:

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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:14 PM
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55. I totally agree with you...Rove wanted to be....
"famous and important and powerful" and he was will to sell his soul to the devil just he count obtain those statuses. May he burn in hell and "NEVER" rest in peace.:nuke:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:40 PM
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56. Pure class. What a prince.
:sarcasm:
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:39 PM
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2. Rove has always behaved like this.
When people went to his house to protest a year or two ago, he came out and yelled at them "How DARE you come and protest me!!??"

He's an arrogant fuck pig who had better not drop the soap when he gets to prison.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:08 PM
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46. Although you are correct that visual was uncalled for...lol
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:41 PM
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3. An indictment of Karl Rove calls for a drink.
My fear is that Dubya will have that drink and then another and then another. What is the little fool going to do without his Machiavelli?

Even WITH Rove in the White House, this administration has fucked everything up beyond belief.

Without Rove, the booze may flow in a torrent.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:37 AM
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33. Yeah, I have to say that I'm a little concerned about what will happen
If Rove does end up going away.

Which is scarier: Bush on a very short but evil leash or Bush completely unleashed?

The concept of Bush actually running things without Rove making the decisions is pretty damn scary to me.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:42 PM
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4. If all
that is propping up the regime is a political hack job then they are already finished and it is only a matter of how much suffering they can inflict. Rove is no Robert E. Lee, no embodiment of leadership, no charismatic figure or brilliant tactician, just an Enforcer given too much leeway as the schmoes in the limelight crumble around him.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:46 PM
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5. Good Morning Mr.Rove Flash Flash Flash!!! driving your jag!!!
Thats a helluva good morning!!!:rofl:
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:04 PM
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16. You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
And a fat slob driving a Jag is still a fat slob

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:21 AM
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26. LOL - ain't it the truth!
:rofl:
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powwowdancer Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:45 PM
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50. Ya See...
That's the first thing that ran through my tiny mind: how much butter does Rove have to deploy on his big, dimpled, doughy ass to squeeze into a jag? How the hell does he breathe? Be like tryin' to push a hot dog through a key hole if ya asked me. Bleagh... I feel so... oogey.

:dem:
powwowdancer out
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:19 PM
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58. Welcome to DU! Great post!
Sounds to me like you don't have such a tiny mind. "Doughy" is a great word. Goes along with one of my favorite phrases for him - "pasty-faced."

The very thought that he has his grubby paws around the throats of power makes me, too, feel oogey.

What makes me feel worse, though, is what I saw driving just ahead of me in the next lane over, up the freeway yesterday. It was a van with an American flag sticker, and a diagonal "NO" line through it. What made me feel so bad was my reaction to it - that I actually found myself sadly agreeing with it. I am ASHAMED of my country, and my red-state countrymen/women who bought the bullshit, some of whom are STILL resolutely and blindly buying it, and forced this collosal disgrace down upon the rest of us, and upon the rest of the world. It makes me ashamed to be an American. It leaves an ache in my heart and in my gut when I look at an American flag and realize what these bastards have made it symbolize, how they've perverted it before the eyes of the whole world. And, much as I've tried to oppose it, I am still an unwilling partner in it. All of these abominations and atrocities have been done not in my name, but very much in my name, nevertheless. We, here, are ALL stuck on that ship of fools, as much as we tried to prevent it. :cry:

Even so, glad you're here. Always nice to see another of the Enlightened joining us and adding to our numbers. One of these days we WILL be the undisputed majority again.

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:51 PM
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52. I LOVE this post!
YOU PEGGED IT!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:47 PM
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6. Without Rove and Delay they will crumble.....
This is such a pleasure to watch. Now they're hinting that Trent "Strom Jr) Lott may very well wind up back in the party leadership!

God bless their clueless little hearts.......
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:11 PM
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17. Hey, Rowdyboy! I just hope ol' Trent avoids flying in small planes...
he's been too outspoken lately, I think. I even heard him say on NPR that some things transcend party politics (referring to Hurricane Katrina). Will wonders never cease?
:hi:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:18 PM
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18. Hi! I just joined you on another thread welcoming a newbie and then
I find you here! Yeah, if Trent decides to run for re-elecion, he should avoid small planes....

The local nutcase rightwing radio guys were praising Bennie Thomas and Gene Taylor just the other day for standing up to FEMA and Bush. I'm starting to feel like we're living in bizarro world....
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:48 PM
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7. Now that's the Pot calling the Kettle black!
With the Judy Miller fiasco, doesn't the NY times have some jitters of their own?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:49 PM
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8. At first I thought the headline read:
Jitters at the NY Times Over the Leak Inquiry
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:53 PM
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11. Well, we know that Sulzberger, Keller and the Times BoD have got ...
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 09:55 PM by understandinglife
... plenty of reasons for jitters!! :evilgrin:

Even their boy Calame is getting itchy, twitchy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5054381&mesg_id=5054381


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:50 PM
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9. Jane Hamsher: Keep Your Chins Up, Karl
On the eve of his rumored fourth testimony before Patrick J. Fitzgerald's grand jury, things are not looking so good for our chubby little smear muffin. Even the bookies have turned on him:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051013/to160.html?.v=12

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The psychology certainly fits. Preznit Horse Cranker quite obviously has an ego that can barely be constrained within the Crawford city limits, and his reputation as C Plus Augustus has got to rankle. ..... but the sports books are not the only ones who are predicting that Dubya will soon find a convenient moment to throw Rove under the bus, if only to prove he can function without him.

Fitzgerald may be the hangman, but it looks like Dubya's tying the noose.

More at the link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/keep-your-chins-up-karl.html


"Preznit Horse Cranker" :rofl::rofl::rofl:


Peace.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:56 PM
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12. LMAO: "Keep you chins up"
:rofl:
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:38 AM
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28. "Our chubby little smear muffin?"


Correction: "Our chubby little Jag-drivin' smear muffin"

I'll bet the fat bastard pronounces it Jag-YOU-arrrr, just like the effing commercials.

:rofl:
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. refering to the photo....
The photo of Karl in his Jag (referred to as
aitc to conserve bandwidth) shows a Virginia safety inspection sticker on the windshield. Rove, however, lives in DC. He also claims to live in Texas for voting purposes. The address of his principal residence in DC is trivially easy to find by way of Google, so I will omit it here.

The questions are:
1) why is there a Virginia safety inspection sticker on a car owned by a resident of either DC or possibly Texas?
2) is the car registered in DC?
3) if so, why does it not have a DC inspection sticker?
4) does the car have DC plates?
5) is Rove paying Virginia property taxes on the vehicle?

If Rove bought the car secondhand, it is entirely possible that he bought it from a Virginia resident and left the sticker on the car. That would be perfectly legal and aboveboard. Now you have to ask yourselves, what are the odds that Rove does something legal and aboveboard?
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:58 AM
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34. Ha! What are the odds Rove would buy a used car?
Not very damn likely IMO.

Good catch. My guess it's a government-owned vehicle. Why should millionaires have to buy their own car to drive back and forth to work? :sarcasm:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:52 AM
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37. Does any one know how much that car costs?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:02 PM
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45. Well, he is a royal jack-off
Karl, a jack-off you are, indeed!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:52 PM
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10. The roving beamer.....LOL!!!!
Tic toc tic toc tic toc......

hehehehe
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:58 PM
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13. Oh, poor Mr. Rove ...
:D
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:00 PM
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14. Hah ! .... Picture this ....
During the trial of the century: The case against a number of former officials of the Bush White House is being expertly executed by a fiesty prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald ... when rumors of a number of defendents, frustrated by being cut loose to suffer the consequences alone by a feckless, felonious regime in the White House, have decided to turn state's evidence against the planners of the whole affair: the Offices of the President and Vice President Of The United States Of America ....

Imagine Bush trying to weave a tale worthy of throwing down the strong case against him ....

Aint gonna happen .... His ass is grass ....

If the indictments come (and I am sure now they will), and they involve some smaller players: expect Bush and Cheney to go as well ... Mark My Words Here And Now .....

Worse Than Watergate ..... Indeed .....
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:02 PM
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15. Jitters? I think it flapping palsy.
An alcoholic and drug-induced flapping palsy. Fits Bu$h to a Tee!

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:30 PM
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19. Frog march.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:44 PM
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20. Saw him screaming at them to "GET OFF MY LAWN!!"
He looked like a total asshole. Well, he is a total asshole//

Saw this yesterday as he was screaming at cameramen . It was funny watching him struggle with the problems he created. Karma is great.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:31 AM
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32. "Saw him screaming at them to "GET OFF MY LAWN!!""
I never thought I'd say this, but "good for him."

You can protest all you want on the public street in front of his house, but you cannot protest on his yard. That's right; not even Karl Rove.

Here come the flames.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:26 AM
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36. These were cameramen, not protestors.
Ergo, those laws are not applicable in this situation.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:18 PM
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49. I'm wondering
which law you think it is that requires Karl Rove to tolerate the presence of total strangers on his own private property.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:21 PM
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53. Pooooooor Karl
Fuck his "private property". He gave it up when he took a shit on our country. I love it!!! I hope the whole GOP suffers for decades for this.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:25 PM
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40. Awwwwww...Did they ruin his day? Poor Karl. Ruined his whole day.
:nopity:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:12 PM
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48. "Get off my lawn" or I'll anihilate you run over you and F***in destroy
Ya!!! I got to get to the courthouse!!! And Lie again!!!

Not so powerful after all hey!!!
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:57 PM
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21. NYT owes us a different article by now -- with much more info straight
from Miller's mouth.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:06 PM
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22. They've owed us that article since, at least, July of 2003!!!
You are correct that it has to come from Miller and it better be truthful. Here's a link to comments by Arianna Huffington in a related thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5054381#5054976

For me, their major supporting role in spewing Judith's lethal propaganda tarnished them forever. I just hope they are held accountable before an effectual tribunal at some point in the future.


Peace.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:40 PM
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24. Thanks for the link -- I hope he does resign -- and Keller too,
for good company. To say nothing of Miller being sacked which should have happened a looong time ago.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:32 PM
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41. It is not us they owe that article to
It is all the dead and maimed in Iraq. The children crying for their mothers. The parents weeping, weeping, weeping for their dead babies.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:06 PM
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23. It don't know.


Even if Karl gets indicted and "fired" and all, I don't think Bush will ever truly be "without" him. Just that Karl will no longer have an official office in the WH. But what's to prevent Bush from inviting Karl over for tea and crumpets and strategery talk every single day? And what's to prevent Bush from giving Karl some other nice cushy "job" in the next building over?
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The Roux Comes First Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:40 AM
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25. And What's With This Pardon Crap?
Well, yes, I guess we all here may realize and certainly must face at least some of the potential downside limitations to this.

Short of incarceration I agree with you that little sir k will still be available for consultation by the shrub. Life will probably be different though as he will be a marked non-man. No telling what some serious comeuppance might do, but it seems certain he won't just be swaggering around like he used to.

And as an aside, can some legal-beagle here help out as to why the mere occupant of that albino house has such horrific incontrovertible pardon powers? How about some history on this unusual undemocratic institution? Shouldn't there be exceptions, like, say, for Nixon?? Blanket and pre-emptive pardons, not to mention pardons with no exonerating basis are crap as far as I can tell.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:53 AM
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38. You are right. They are joined at the hip. Job or no job.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:48 PM
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43. Good point. Remember, Karen Hughes resigned at one point to
"spend more time with her family" yet undoubtedly she shared oodles of tea and strumpets with Whistle-Ass between that event and her appointment as undersecretary of state.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:09 PM
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47. And BROWNIE got hired as a consultant the second he left FEMA nt
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:08 PM
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57. Indeed, Whistle-Ass can't even fire anyone right.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 12:08 PM by Seabiscuit
Cronyism trumps competence in everything Shrub does.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:03 PM
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59. Whistle-Ass!!!! What a compellingly accurate description!!! nt
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:55 PM
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60. You haven't heard of the Whistle-Ass saga on DU?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:46 AM
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61. No, I must confess I am "out of the loop" on that score!!! nt
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:36 AM
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27. The Whipping master gets whipped!!! the oppressed will now
be set free to cause mayem and chaos!!! Yes Bush is going to be sooo lost!!!
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:42 AM
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29. Anyone else from DC wanna go over there and have some fun?
I wouldn't mind snapping some of my own pictures. What a toad!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:44 AM
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30. what do you call a faded turd blossom?
a turd.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:12 PM
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39. Imus says "They're gonna love that fat boy in prison." nt
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:35 PM
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42. Tooo funny!....Way to go Imus!!!
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:57 PM
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44. More cushion for the pushin'...
Sorry. That was gross. }(
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powwowdancer Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:50 PM
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51. may be...
but still damned funny. Nuthin' like a visual of rove bein' given a big ol' wet french kiss by a tattooed, muscular guy with meth mouth whilst bein' savagely serial raped. See... no apology necessary!

:dem:
powwowdancer out
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:39 PM
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54. I think of Max Cleland in a wheelchair after losing both legs
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 10:42 PM by tinfoilinfor2005
and an arm in the war, and then I think of karl rove riding in a Jaguar, having earned his ride by the dirty tricks he used to slime and trash Senator Cleland...and I just want to see that pig roasted on a spit.
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