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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:20 PM
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Snow stuns market by tipping higher interest rates
WASHINGTON - US Treasury Secretary John Snow stunned global financial markets by predicting in an interview published that interest rates will rise.

The comment to London's The Times newspaper broke a taboo on treasury secretaries speaking about interest rates, a zone usually restricted to Federal Reserve (news - web sites) policymakers.

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Snow's comment was correct but unwise, most economists said.

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Moody's Investors Service chief US economist John Lonski said Snow's comments were unexpected.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&e=2&u=/afp/forex_us_snow



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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:22 PM
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1. correct, but unwise?

"Snow's comment was correct but unwise, most economists said."


I forgot how telling the truth is a BAD thing in the misAdministration.

Welcome to the reich-wing's lying America.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:10 PM
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20. well, here's an article where he goes back to lying
http://www.smartmoney.com/bn/ON/index.cfm?story=ON-20031020-001203-1525

Higher consumer income and spending, a strong housing market and improved business spending, coupled with low inflation and low interest rates "all show we are heading in the right direction of an accelerating recovery," said Treasury Secretary John Snow. He added, "As the economy grows, government revenues will go up, which will help keep the deficit under control."

so I wouldn't believe that the truth would win out in this man's mouth
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:25 PM
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2. Yes, God forbid we should say anything true
Can't spook the horses, now can we?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:41 PM
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7. Frau Blucher!
:evilgrin:
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:47 PM
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16. Crap!
I've got a cold today, and I laughed until it set off a coughing fit. Three times. God, that was good.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:29 PM
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23. Interest rates!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:04 PM
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11. You mean the sheep, don't you?
I don't think even the horse is a sufficiently docile and stupid animal to compare it to the Imperial Subjects of Amerika.

Perhaps the "cow" because they are too stupid to know not to shit in the creek.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:27 PM
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3. With deficits at historic highs
anyone in the financial markets who doesn't expect interest rates to rise and go through the roof should look for another occupation.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:53 PM
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9. Very True
Business now has to compete with the Federal Government for the available money that can be "loaned." When that happens, costs on everything will go up as will state and local taxes and "fees" disgusied as a non-tax.

The only question is where and how.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:28 PM
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4. hmm sliding exchange rates for the US Dollar
not fun
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:33 PM
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5. Please enlighten this economics layman
Everybody seems to rave about how devaluing your currency is good (cheap exports). But I can't shake the feeling this can not be good in the long run. I mean, the money you have in your pocket is suddenly worth LESS!
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:05 PM
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12. physical gold and SILVER...
are always smart when we have morons in charge...
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:18 PM
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15. the dollar
yes devaluing of the dollar means cheaper exports - which means US goods will be cheaper overseas and thereby creating a demand

HOWEVER, since many of our manufacturing plants are now located overseas the cheaper "exports" won't have as large of an impact as it is being touted

The flipside of the devalued dollar is that IMPORTS will be more expensive - and since we import more than we export - the US consumer will be paying more for goods which means even less "disposable income" will be available to 'stimulate the economy'

As noise of this starts making the front page of the papers - and the whistleass's numbers drop, I would expect that the whistleass will start pushing for another taxcut for the fat cats
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:16 PM
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17. invest in gold or euros
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 04:17 PM by twilight
that's the way to go ... I believe anyway. I bought some gold awhile back and its done well in a fairly short time. You might also want to look into buying international bond funds and Euros.

However, GOLD RULES!!!!!

:dem: :kick:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:03 PM
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19. twilight, do you mind if I ask you
where your preferred place is to buy gold. I see offers all the time, but am not sure of their legitimacy.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:28 PM
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22. hi juajen
check you inbox for details ... :)

:dem:
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:26 PM
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28. I am interested as well
any chance you could shoot me the details as well?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:33 PM
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6. Hey, you know these grown-ups who are in charge, now?
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 02:36 PM by Mary Pat
They sure don't know when to keep their mouths shut, do they? "Bring 'em on," the CIA leak, now this. And, when they should be talking, they shout "executive privilege" and then clam up.

Oh how I long for the days when the Clinton kids were in charge.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:50 PM
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8. the issue is
Snow, or anyone from the White House is not supposed to say stuff like this before the Fed makes its decisions.

the idea is that the Fed is not supposed to be pressured by particular politicians.

of course, the Bush administration givcs a rats ass about anything of this sort, obviously, when he is willing to let a member of his administration out a CIA operative without any sort of consequence.

the weak dollar will not do much for the middle class. nor will rising interest rates.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:02 PM
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10. Put this in perspective of the the article regarding the
drop in 6 of the 10 leading economic indicators...
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Dr Satan Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:06 PM
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13. I think this was planned
they intentionally "stunned global financial markets."
Its a script and the puppets are doing what the strings tell them to do.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:10 PM
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21. well, that would be giving them a lot of credit for being able to plan
anything. so far all i've seen them do is attack and react.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:10 PM
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14. I think they did this cause Savers in America are ticked
Low Interest rates have been killing older people living on the Interest of their money

:bounce:
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:18 PM
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18. your right Nottingham ...
Nottingham, do you remember a message I sent you a long time ago? That place just raised rates last week ... that's cause they know ya know?

:dem: :kick:
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:47 PM
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24. Twilight I saw that! YEP
:bounce: Our economy is so screwed! Thanks top Bush!
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:04 PM
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25. This is just the tip of the iceberg
The Bushistas know damn well that The Chinese and Japanese can no longer prop up the dollar and that it is due for a big slide, especially once our Asian partners start actively hedging against devaluation. Once the slide hits interest rates will start to rise, perhaps dramatically. Then we get the double whammy - inflation and unemployment.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:18 PM
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26. Exactly, and the Chinese and Japanese told Bush that very clearly...
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:06 PM
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27. If Bush is Begging for Help From China
Things must be going horribly wrong indeed...That's not a pretty thought...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:32 PM
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30. Rising interest rates will deflate the air out of the Stock Market...
there are too many retirement dollars in the Stock Market because interest rates are so low.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:32 PM
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29. nice stock tip mr snow. carry on good fellow. dont forget your class
somebody, somewhere made a bundle of money from this and i would like to know who.
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