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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:24 PM
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Holloway’s mother leaves Aruba

"ORANJESTAD, Aruba - The mother of an Alabama teenager who went missing in Aruba said Sunday she is leaving Dutch Caribbean island after having “exhausted all my avenues” there following the release of all three suspects in the disappearance."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9208806/

Now if Fox CNN and MSGOP would leave this story. 3 months of one rich lil blonde party girl has become to much to handle.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:27 PM
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1. She'd feel better if she went and helped some people in
the Gulf states.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:30 PM
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3. I'm happy to cut her some slack since her daughter's probably dead... n/t
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:29 PM
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2. Oh God, what is Greta going to do? nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:32 PM
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4. Any news on Michael Jacksons mama? n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:47 PM
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5. We have spent more time looking for her daughter

then we have spent getting water and food to NO!

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:29 PM
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10. We have spend no time looking for her daughter, unless
you considering watching TV looking for someone.
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:36 PM
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15. Agreed. People need to stop being so snotty about this.
If I had a daughter, and she was missing, and the national media wanted to spend all damn day covering it, I would USE THE HELL OUT OF THEM.

I wish her daughter had been found alive. I feel sorry for her.

It's not her decision as to what the media will and won't cover.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:51 AM
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33. I agree...
geesh give her a break, a mother should do everything she can to find her missing daughter.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:01 PM
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6. her 15 minutes of fame is up....
it only took an american city to be reclaimed by the sea
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:04 PM
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7. good one!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:26 PM
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8. Who's 15 minutes of fame?
I hope you're not talking about the mother whose daughter is missing and most likely dead?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:55 PM
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31. 15 minutes of fame?
This woman was not looking for her 15 minutes of fame. Her daughter is missing and probably dead. Listen to yourself.:(
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:28 PM
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9. it's about time
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:30 PM by shanti
media's off of her daughter, and it ain't coming back! i feel for her, but doubt her daughter is going to show up any time soon.

i agree that she should help out in LA and MS. might help her grief to think of someone else.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:31 PM
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11. So, if someone is rich and blond, it doesn't matter what
had happened to them? The media way over-covered this story, but such callousness toward someone who is most likely dead doesn't make any sense.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:39 PM
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16. Of course it makes perfect sense ...
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 08:40 PM by ElectroPrincess
How many young sweet girls of color or those from working class families go missing everyday? ... and they're promptly discounted like FEMA thought of those within the Convention Center in NO. The damn head of FEMA said he "had no idea" which equates that he (and those like him) do NOT care about the poor.

This missing ADULT woman (18 y.o.) was blond and upper-middle class. The media should be ashamed of hyper-focusing on this case.

Shame on them!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:44 PM
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19. A human being is a human being to me.
It's not her fault she is blond and middle class.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:46 PM
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20. oh, to the contrary, if her folks are also well to do, we'll move heaven
and earth to find her. It is both classist and racist and the hell if I will feel bad that we are FINALLY are focusing on news that may effect *the entire nation* vice a sleazy sensationalist story. :-)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:41 PM
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21. Well, heaven and earth wasn't enough, cause we obviously
never did find her.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:32 PM
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12. With all respect to the situation ...
I fail to understand how this one girl has gotten months of nearly constant attention on shows like Nancy Grace. It's not that I don't feel for her or her mother, but I have no doubt that so many others have gone missing since. How many opportunities have been missed to save those people, just because Natalie Holloway is a more appealing picture on the television screen?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:33 PM
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13. Gee, is it her fault? It's the media's fault that they pick up a
story and run with it. It's not like the dead girl orchestrated the coverage.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:34 PM
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14. I fail to see where I implied that. Explain please?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:43 PM
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18. No, those who honed in on this case should be ashamed ...
Our family immediately turned the TV channel each time her name came up ... same behavior went toward the Michael Jackson trial.

Damn the corporate media focusing in on this and NEGLECT the entire US National news stories! :puke:
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:41 PM
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17. Holloway's mother?
I wondered what Ms Van Sustern was up to ;)

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:58 PM
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22. curse the media, not a mom. she is bereaved just like Cindy: her
child is dead from a senseless thing too. A bullet, strangulation, neither are easy to imagine for a mother. I feel and pity her. Hate the media. They are the whores here, not a grieving mother. I feel for EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE today. God help all who suffer for whatever reason they suffer. I remember when there used to be hope.
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:08 PM
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23. This thread sickens me
The original post made a justifiable attack agianst the mainstream media for foistering so much attention on this one missing person case. Yes, this case was seized upon by media outlets that would like to distract from larger issues.

The posters above that disparage a grieving mother are disgusting.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:06 PM
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26. I couldn't believe it myself
My thoughts upon reading them were a combination of

:wow: and :grr: and :thumbsdown:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:08 PM
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24. I don't fault the mother - but I do fault the media
Wouldn't have minded if they gave a minute or two update a night - but the damned obsession was ridiculous. What really blew me away was middle of last week when I was flipping channels on Katrina coverage Nancy Grace actually did some day 93, day 94, etc. reporting on this case while babies were dying in NO.

And was it Rita Crosby or one of the blonde media whores who were reporting on Katrina from Aruba last week until the network had the wisdom to get them off Aruba?
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:00 AM
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34. Blew me away too
I'm sorry the daughter is missing and I would use everything at my disposal to find her, but covering this story while babies were on the verge of death in New Orleans is beyond disgusting. Natalee is most likely dead, but those babies were still alive and had a fighting chance if help came.
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:11 PM
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25. The best thing to come out of Ms Holloway's disappearance
is the increased awareness of the DANGER that young women face in the islands.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's her fault. What I'm saying is that perhaps more people will exercise better judgment when visiting those islands.

This isn't the first disappearance - it's just the most highly publicized because of the "news appeal" of the victim.

I'm outraged for all those who lost someone they loved or lost their lives to violence/foul play. And for those who lost their lives and loved ones to greed - right here in our 'HOMELAND'.



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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:11 PM
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27. "Those" islands (I'm not sure which ones you mean)
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:12 PM by ugarte
If you mean Aruba, its crime rate is extremely low. The only reason it seems otherwise is all the media attention on this one case.

BTW, the "Other" disappearance you speak of was several years ago and occurred at sea, not on Aruba.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 08:31 AM
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36. Being safety conscious
I don't think the islands are necessarily any less safe than an American city, and tourists stick out like sore thumbs anywhere because they are known to carry money and be unfamiliar with the area. I think an important issue here is that people should use their better judgment when hanging out at bars until all hours of the morning, whether it's a bar in Aruba or a bar down the corner where you live. And if you must stay there until two and three in the morning stay in the company of friends not strangers.
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electricray Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:21 PM
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28. I feel sorry for the lady but I just have to ask...
Why the hell do I know her name? What the fuck is any news organization doing with her on TV now of all times. We never should have had such a national focus on her to begin with but this is freaking ridiculous. I am embarrassed that I actually know enough to be pissed off about knowing something about this case.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:47 PM
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29. My problem with this woman and the media
who pimped her are all the declarations they made concerning these particular suspects who were just freed. They declared them guilty, although it now appears there is not a thread of evidence against them. This same drumbeat went on night after night, week after week.

I don't know if these guys are innocent or guilty, but the mother and the entire media just jumped on the bandwagon that they were guilty.
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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:49 PM
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30. That's so PRE-KATRINA
sorry mom, hope you enjoyed your 15 min of fame, and that you do find some peace after all the cameras have gone chasing the next story.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:56 PM
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32. I feel bad for the family....
but consider what else is going on, WHO THE HELL CARES? People are obsessing over one white girl when thousands of mostly black people are probably dead. It just isn't right.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:15 AM
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35. Correction--mostly poor
A lot of other towns in the region are still digging out. I think you'll find that a lot of poor white people were killed too. It's a tragedy that help didn't come no matter what the skin color. I've heard there are towns in Mississippi begging for help now.

People with money drove out ahead of the storm. Couldn't believe Bush talking about Lott's house when my television screen was full of Mothers were begging for help in New Orleans.
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