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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:05 PM
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Tornado injures 12 in Birmingham (UK)


Nineteen people have been injured - three seriously - as a tornado ripped through the streets of Birmingham.

The sudden storm damaged buildings, uprooted trees and trapped people in their homes. The Met Office estimates the wind speed may have reached 130mph.

One sq km of damage was caused in Kings Heath, with "hundreds" of properties affected, council officials said.

Emergency services are using dogs and specialist equipment to see if anyone has been trapped in damaged buildings.

<snip>

A Met Office spokesperson said: "From the reports we have heard we would estimate that this is a tornado with a rating of T3-T4, that would mean it had wind speeds of between 93-114 mph for T3 and 114-130 for T4.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midland...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:07 PM
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1. extremely rare in the UK...global warming anyone? eom
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:09 PM
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2. There is no global warming! Commander Bunnypants says so!!
Now buy more gasoline for your SUV, d*mnit!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:12 PM
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3. I don't think I've ever heard of one there before.
Wow... hope all the Birmingham DUers are okay. Those things are frightening...

Hope the injured get better soon.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:20 PM
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7. Never heard of this before in my life
I've lived in England and other European countries. Tornadoes are not common there at all, actually quite an oddity. Europe is squarely placed in a temperate weather region, equidistant from the tropics and the North Pole. It just doesn't have the weather requirements for the formation of tornadoes... until now.

This year alone I've heard of tornadoes in England and Southern Spain. This is very bizarre, maybe indicative of how global warming is changing the climatic patterns in the world.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:25 PM
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9. we had two in sacramento this year
and they were unheard of before around here. :shrug:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:27 PM
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14. Not completely unheard of, but rare, yes...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 02:31 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Sacramento County Tornadoes

OCT 26, 1921 001 1445 0 0 F2 067
FEB 07, 1978 002 1326 0 0 F2 067
MAR 22, 1983 005 1410 0 0 F1 067
APR 19, 1988 005 1358 0 0 F1 067
MAR 23, 1995 002 1630 0 0 F0 067

http://www.tornadoproject.com/alltorns/catorn.htm#S

On Edit:

And here are some statistics re: dead/injured for some of the CA tornadoes (including, but not limited to Sacramento County)

<snip from site>:
CALIFORNIA: Tornadoes causing five or more injuries before 1953; three or more injuries after and including 1953


OCT 26, 1921 2:45 pm 0 dead 5 injured
About 35 homes were damaged in southeast Sacramento.

APR 6, 1926 0:05 AM 0 dead 8 injured
A waterspout came ashore and unroofed homes at National City, near San Diego.

MAR 15, 1930 11:40 AM 0 dead 7 injured
About 150 homes had roof damage in Hawthorne, Lawndale, and Lennox; all injuries were at a factory.

FEB 12, 1936 3:30 pm 0 dead 6 injured
Two homes were unroofed and five oil derricks were blown down at Long Beach, Los Angeles County.

JAN 11, 1951 8:17 AM 0 dead 30 injured
About 150 homes were hit at Sunnyvale, Santa Clara County. in the third most damaging US tornado of the year.

NOV 7, 1966 12:40 pm 0 dead 10 injured
Homes were damaged or unroofed at Lawndale, Hawthorne, Lennox, and Englewood, Los Angeles Co.

MAR 16, 1977 6:30 pm 0 dead 4 injured
A tornado skipped from Fullerton to Brea, Orange county; 80 homes had some damage.

MAR 1, 1983 7:40 AM 0 dead 30 injured
Fifty homes were damaged in south-central Los Angeles.

SEP 30, 1983 10:35 pm 0 dead 3 injured
Eight homes were unroofed and sixty were damaged at Hawthorne, Los Angeles County.

DEC 17, 1992 2:20 pm 0 dead 4 injured
Fifty three homes were damaged at Oroville, Butte County.

DEC 17, 1992 2:20 pm 0 dead 4 injured
At Oroville, Butte County, 53 homes and two apartment complexes were damaged.

http://www.tornadoproject.com/alltorns/worstts.htm#CA
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:15 PM
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6. The second this year.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:14 PM
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4. Wow! I didn't know y'all had tornadoes in the UK!
How common is this? I don't suppose you have warning systems like we do here in the states.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:24 PM
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13. Here's UK info on frequency of tornadoes
Average is 33/year.
<snip>
4 How often do tornadoes occur in the United Kingdom?
On average, 33 tornadoes are reported each year in the United Kingdom. This average is based on a 30 year period, though in reality the actual yearly figures may vary dramatically from year to year.

Site:
http://www.torro.org.uk/severeweather/tornadofaqs.htm
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:15 PM
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5. I have never heard of a tornado in the UK before, has that happened
before? The global weather patterns are really freaking me out lately.
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Wish Upon A Star Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:21 PM
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8. Terrible.
How awful!
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:27 PM
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10. As a Kansan, T3 or T4 is a powerful
tornado, enough to cause major damage to structures. T5 are the kind that blow a house away with just splinters left behind, that is the highest rank on the Fujita scale. I pray that everyone is found and is ok. Amazing. I have been through a couple myself. Very rare.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:40 PM
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11. Damn Bin Laden weather machine!
In related news, Birmingham police have been given orders to shoot any cyclones on sight. Brooklyn Cyclones first baseman Nick Evans was appaerntly shot in the leg by Birmingham police who mistook him for a cyclone, y'know, like the tornado, not the baseball team, innit?

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:14 PM
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12. Freaking weird, sounds like Day After Tomorrow shit!
I watched a program on Discovery about melting polar ice changing the salinity of the ocean and changing the currents, we all better hope that doesn't happen!

Have you hugged a Hummer driver today?
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:07 PM
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15. I didn't think tornados occured in England
I guess they can happen anywhere, but this is freakish.
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