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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 08:59 AM
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QC completes longest speech in legal history (BCCI class action)
QC completes longest speech in legal history

Simon Bowers
Wednesday May 25, 2005
The Guardian

It sounds like a scene from a latter day reworking of Charles Dickens' legal satire in Bleak House. Today, lead counsel for the Bank of England will sit down after delivering what is believed to be the longest speech in British legal history.

After 119 days talking through a "core trial bundle" of 125 lever-arch files, Nicholas Stadlen QC has finished his opening comments in the Bank's defence of a £850m compensation claim by creditors to collapsed bank BCCI.

Mervyn King, the Bank's governor, this week been in the public gallery to witness the "end of the beginning" of the defence. Mr Stadlen's speech smashes a record set last year by his rival in the same case, Gordon Pollock QC.

Mr Pollock had been on his feet in court 73 at the Royal Courts of Justice - the room which hosted the Hutton inquiry - for 80 days setting out the case by BCCI liquidators.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1491614,00.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:03 AM
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1. I assure you, your honour, I'm done
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:13 AM
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2. HE may be done, but the fun's only just beginnin'!
Hi Seems, just begining to really enjoy the Rigorous Intuition link you pointed out the other day.

The BCCI hellhole is like a giant pus-filled carbuncle on the face of the Reagan/Bush1 administration and Republican politics during the last 25 years. Ditto the Bush2 and Poodle admins which have been stealthily corralled into defending the indefensible by failing to distinguish between democrtic politics and obscenity.

The asshole KGB agents and their associated cold-war mercenary support networks that postured themselves as bone fide high ranking US and UK politicians "liberating the evil empire of communism" and spreading "democracy" like a hooker spreads venereal disease have spawned a cesspit teeming with corruption.

BCCI is their swansong.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:23 AM
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4. BCCI had its tentacles into just about every government
on the planet with something to hide, and that means all of them. What Kerry was digging up was so deeply embarrassing to the CIA and to the Bush family that Congress forced him to drop it. Kerry, to his credit, did an end run around Congressional hacks and gave all his evidence to state AGs and that's when the shit started to hit the fan.

We'll get little news of the investigation in the UK, trust me. My guess is that Downing Street is terrified of what this is going to turn up.

BCCI was a full service money laundering outfit that enabled governments and terrorists alike to fund their crimes against humanity. This is the key to what has been happening in the world in the past 30 years to suppress human rights around the globe. If any investigation is allowed to proceed, it may signal the end of Empire. It will certainly signal the end of the Bush family as power brokers.

And that's a good thing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:30 AM
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5. And THAT is why they needed to lie, cheat and steal votes to keep Kerry
from gaining the executive power to open those books on BCCI.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:00 AM
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6. Kerry did a lot to get BCCI closed down in the US but not as much
as former NY Attorney General BOB MORGENTHAU. Both had access to UN Security Council classified intelligence that resulted in BCCI getting busted. But Morgenthau had exceptional priviledged access to documents/intelligence governed by the US State Secrets Act that is normally reserved for the eyes of American presidents only. Ditto classified documents governed by the UK Official Secrets Act, mainly referring to cold-war intelligence on the House of Windsor.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:34 AM
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10. Kerry took the case and the evidence to Morgenthau when the US attorney
passed on prosecution. Kerry was a Senator, not a prosecutor at the time. The case HAD to go to a prosecutor and Kerry chose Morgenthau. They worked TOGETHER.

I would have sworn that you were aware of that.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:39 AM
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12. Kerry and Morgenthau were briefed by senior UNSC members.
Morgethau had sight of priviledged documents relating to UK. kerry didn't.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:52 PM
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14. Not the point. The point was that Kerry took the case to Morgenthau
Edited on Wed May-25-05 01:05 PM by blm
and handed over the evidence accumulated in his investigation so he could even BEGIN prosecuting and eyeballing other evidence. I just thought it was odd that you wouldn't remember that.

No Kerry - no Morgenthau.

And it would have been Kerry's call to open the books on BCCI as president, and THAT is what the BFEE could not allow under ANY circumstance. Everything that has been going on in the world of terrorism over the last 20 years is directly rooted in the BCCI dealings.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:44 AM
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15. Sorry, but that's just not how it happened. Morgenthau first had
Edited on Thu May-26-05 09:45 AM by emad
sight of BCCI documents from a senior UNSC member in mid-88 and then early 1989 - immediately after Bush1 took over in the WH from Reagan.

Kerry and had NO access to classified US State Secrets documents (normally only seen by the elected US President). He did see CIA and MI6 papers relating, but was not allowed access to the big stuff because of Margaret Thatcher's concerns for the safety of her own office. She was booted out approximately 2 months after thatin October 1990.

Morgenthau was given priviledged access to those State papers - and their UK equivalent classified under the Official Secrets Act and relating to the House of Windsor - after Bush1 took over from Reagan.

They related to US Justice Department whitewashing of intelligence re Reagan's extensive pedophile career in Hollywood and the KGB slush funds than paid off previous informants in the US who had been threatening to blow the lid during the 1980 WH campaign that got him elected.

The UK counterpart papers relate to parallel campaigns from House of Windsor members who demanded payment in return for their own silence.

In 1991 the UK's Times newspaper published some of this in a review of an intelligence newsletter that ran a story under the title "Who's Who in International Corruption".

It named the UK chain associated with the Children of God Cult based in Hampstead, North London, which used child couriers (late 1979/early 1980) posing as bona fide tourists to carry medium to large $$$ sums to the US, drawn from BCCI offshore facilities in the Channel Islands and Monaco. Contacts in Florida then laundered the dosh and ensured all those posing a mild to medium threat to reagan's chances of running for the WH were paid off.

Also of note is that Kerry saw no papers relating to the UK plea bargain evidence of BCCI London General Manager John Hilberrry - who turned states evidence after City of London cops got him by the short and curlies on the 1983 UK Brinks Matt bullion heist at Heathrow (£26 million, mostly still unaccount for), the disappearance of £400million+ from Mirror Group newspapers Pensioners' Fund run by former Mossad/KGB double agent Robert Maxwell RIP, nor the related 1986 murder of London estate agent Suzie Lamplugh.

Hilberry was initially reported to have been given a new ID and smuggled abroad - France and then New Zealand. But reports in the UK last year stated that he was executed shortly after his evidence was corroborated by independent sources.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:12 PM
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17. I think you emphasize the UK case on BCCI while I refer to the US case.
Edited on Thu May-26-05 05:13 PM by blm
In the US case it was Kerry who first launched an investigation into the dealings of BCCI. The US Attorney at the time was Robert Mueller and he declined to federally prosecute. (His reward from Bush2 - FBI director)

Kerry did not let that end the case. He took what he had to Robert Morgenthau. That kept the case and the inquiry alive in the US, albeit prosecuted under state laws.

There are books and articles that cover it. Joe Klein even brought it up as part of an indepth piece on Kerry in the New Yorker about 2 years ago.



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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:19 AM
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3. Breaking: Jury requests break to apply for pensioner's benefits....
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:02 AM
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7. Bank's witnesses in BCCI case: FT
Bank's witnesses in BCCI case
By Nikki Tait
Published: May 19 2005 03:00 | Last updated: May 19 2005 03:00

The Bank of England is considering calling just two witnesses as it defends itself against allegations of misfeasance in the £850m legal action brought by the liquidators of Bank of Credit and Commerce International. Brian Quinn, a former executive director and head of banking supervision at the central bank, who is also chairman of Celtic Football Club, is expected to give evidence on June 13. Cross-examination could last for months.

The second witness is likely to be Peter Cooke, former head of the Bank's supervisory department between 1976 and 1985. Mr Cooke was in charge when BCCI, which collapsed in 1991 owing more than £10bn to creditors and depositors, was originally licensed in 1980.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/14b7e1c8-c804-11d9-9765-00000e2511c8.html
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:08 AM
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8. When will they get to the KGB connection?
The only Internet sources I can find that refer to both BCCI & the KGP indicate that "The Illuminati" are behind it all.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:13 AM
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9. Check:
Edited on Wed May-25-05 10:17 AM by emad
http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=317.topic
EDIT: former BCCI London General Manager referred to confessed in his plea bargain to City of London cops about his KGB handlers, financing structure and support network. Was executed shortly after his testimony was corroborated by independent sources.


For "Illuminati" read "self-etoilated organised crime sex cult gang"..........

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:20 AM
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11. A link to posts by you on another message board!

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:54 AM
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13. It could be someone impersonating emad
Come on, what kind of conspiracy theorist do you call yourself? :-)
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:46 AM
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16. Inter alia. As an expert witness in the BCCI class action I think
it is relevant.
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