Jesuit School Blasted for Naming Liberal Former Gov. Commencement Speaker

[NNN0LHI]

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBN1HMYL7E.html

SEATTLE (AP) - A conservative Catholic group is lashing out at Seattle University for picking former Gov. Gary Locke to deliver this year's commencement speech, saying his support for abortion rights, same-sex partner benefits and other causes clashes with church doctrine.
In a statement on the Jesuit university's Web site this week, the school's president, the Rev. Stephen J. Sundborg, praised Locke for his work to improve education, welfare reform and trade. "The integrity and compassion that underlie (his) accomplishments exemplify the values of Seattle University," Sundborg said.

However, Sundborg's decision drew blistering comments from Patrick J. Reilly, president of the Cardinal Newman Society based in Manassas, Va.

"Integrity and compassion? Not from a Catholic point of view!" Reilly said in a statement on his group's Web site. "Locke is a steadfast enemy of defenseless preborn children and all those who would protect their lives."

more

[Jade Fox]

1. Seattle is a truely liberal city....

Even conservative Christian schools like Seattle U. don't do the
fundamentalist goose-step.

[Nevernose]

2. I'll bet this same group supports the death penalty and the war

Any takers?

[PSPS]

3. Good for them (the Jesuits)

Thanks to my superb Jesuit education where critical thinking and the pursuit of truth was paramount, I escaped becoming just another of the brain-dead mindless sheeple! Some of the smartest people I ever met in my life were Jesuit priests.

[Toots]

4. You mean good that they are opposed to a liberal speaker or good that he

was invited in the first place? :shrug:

[Iowa]

14. The Jesuits aren't opposed to a liberal speaker...

They're the ones who invited him to speak. Some knee-jerk Republican front with a saint's name is opposed to Locke's appearance.

Good post PSPS. I didn't attend a Jesuit university, but I have known a few and they tend to be the very brightest. Actually, it would be very tough for an individual to be an intelligent seeker of what is good and true - and a neocon. I believe that many neocons are probably quite bright - they're just liars and manipulators. They use their intelligence to manipulate the masses in an effort to enrich themselves at the expense of those born with less. They could care less about all these "moral" issues they claim to be concerned about. It's all about duping the masses, seizing the levers of government, and money.

[Octafish]

7. What PSPS said!

"Some of the smartest people I ever met in my life were Jesuit priests."

Good on them and good on you, PSPS!

My wife invited me to attend services with her congregation, led by the Jesuits of the University of Detroit-Mercy. We went to Mass on the campus, where a small chapel was home to a closely knit community ranging from professors of law to the people from the local neighborhood. They made me feel welcome from Day One.

After dating for a year, my wife and I were privileged to have been married by one of the leading priests of the Society of Jesus. He also, I am honored to say, also baptised our two kids. Among his many pursuits, Father Art was an expert on Liberation Theology. He also was a scratch golfer.

Father Art's been gone about four years now. God, we miss him so.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, PSPS! Thanks for stating what I've always believed and known.

[msu2ba]

16. Good for them!

I taught alongside the Jebbies at U-D High School for 14 years. They're not going to take any crap from those clowns!

[TahitiNut]

9. (From another beneficiary of Jebbie Ed): Welcome to DU, PSPS.

:hi: Good first post. :thumbsup:

[Nite Owl]

11. Always a solid

education from the Jesuits. Always been like that too.

And welcome to DU PSPS

:hi:

[Warpy]

17. You're right.

Two of the three decent priests I've met in my lifetime were Jesuits, and yes, they were a lot smarter than the rest of the bunch.

Why a group in right wing Virginia feels compelled or even entitled to comment on anything that goes on in liberal Seattle is the height of arogance.

What the hell is wrong with Virginia? That state is the Kansas of the east coast!

[MADem]

21. Smart guys, indeed, those Jesuits!

They are among the original speakers of truth to power.

You will never see a Jesuit Pope, because they feel their role is to hoist the bullshit flag if they ever see the leadership going too far off the page,

[BrotherBuzz]

25. One critical thinking Jesuit even became a liberal governor

Jerry Brown from California comes to mind. I wonder what the Cardinal Newman Society would have to say if Jerry had been chosen to speak?

Welcome to DU.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

5. More religious McCarthyism

[JerseygirlCT]

8. Exactly

Growing up, groups like the Catholic League or this Newman gang were taken with huge grains of salt. They were the fringe wackos.

The Jesuits have a long history of independent thought. Good for them on that. But I'm troubled by the seeming (it could just be a very loud minority) resurgence of extremely conservative Catholic voices, demanding to define just what "catholic" means.

[TygrBright]

18. It's a loud minority in the US...

...and Europe, and small pockets of Central/South America. And a frighteningly large majority everywhere else.

Don't hope for progress any time soon.

dismissively,
Bright

[JerseygirlCT]

28. I gave up any hope years ago

which is why I'm now an Episcopalian.

My parents report a new and much more conservative priest at my old church. The pastor I grew up with was pretty cool. Therefore, the bishop didn't much care for him, and forced him to retire (though he didn't want to) at 72. All this ultra-conservative stuff is just a new face of R Catholicism to me -- not what I grew up with at all!

[mitchtv]

12. Manassas, Virginia

It figures

[CO Liberal]

6. "... a steadfast enemy of defenseless preborn children"

Until the Catholic priesthood is completely cleansed of the pedophile priests who prey on children after they're born and adequate compensation has been made to all their victims, Patrick J. Reilly should just shut his fucking mouth.

IMHO.

[TahitiNut]

10. That's from a "steadfast ally of offensive predead corpses."

:shrug: They're already brain-dead.

[Sean Reynolds]

13. Locke liberal?!?

LOL

I needed a laugh.

[K8-EEE]

15. Jesuits ARE Liberal, DUH!

They're like the opposite of the fascist Opus Dei type catholicism...This guy Patrick J. Reilly needs to STFU. Liberals are allowed to speak as far as I know, or at least I THINK they are.

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. Newman House finds my new addresses before anyone else

It's mystically bizarre. I went to the Newman House church on my campus ONCE during my freshman year, when I was relapsing from my lapsed catholic status. One whif of the incense reminded me why I dumped the practice in high school, and I've never been in a church since (except for funerals - i don't even attend wedding masses!). Let me reiterate: ONCE!!!

Nevertheless, I get fundraising crap from Newman House everywhere I go, and I've moved around a lot. They always find me first. Five years ago I sent them money explaining that I was a hard-core atheist, and here's some money if you never send any fundraising stuff to me again. I got another letter six months later.

From all this I've determined that the Cardinal Newman Society is more insidious and powerful than the FBI. They should be enlisted to track down fugitives. Here's the kicker: I'm pretty sure I didn't even give them my NAME the ONE TIME I went. Weird...

[Roland99]

20. Will these wedge issues never die?

[DELUSIONAL]

22. Locke is a liberal? I thought he was a moderate democrat

[Stinky The Clown]

23. Religious Extremists

Roman Catholic. Southern Baptist. Pentacostal. Muslim. It doesn't matter. They are all the same. Only the clothing and the book differs. These people are just as fucking wacky as Osama and his buddies, Dobson and his buddies.

Hey ... Reilly ... I got yer litmus test ... in my fucking shortz, you asshole.

[cap]

27. dont paint with such a broad brush...

the Catholic left is mobilizing ... there is an interfaith vigil on April 24 to counter the Frist's nonsense ...\

Pax Christi is against the war and is part of this coalition...

The Catholic Right has just sucked up all the air time ... Believe me, there's a lot in the pews that are pretty fed up.

[Stinky The Clown]

29. Fair enough ... no broad brush

I reread what I posted. It was quite broad brush. They're my words. I own them. But that isn't what I really meant. I was refering to the nuts in those sects .... and that is surely not all of them. And maybe not even the majority of them.

Consider my brush narrowed.

[cap]

32. but definitely agree with you on the nutcases

:)

[leesa]

24. Reilly is a man of hate.

Love the fetus, hate the child. How very Christian of you!

[Joey Liberal]

26. This is why I'm no longer a Catholic

Catholics have gone over to the dark side. They have become right wing wackos.

[JohnLocke]

30. Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam! ("For the greater glory of God")

Protecting the enviroment, educating people, helping those in need. That's real religion.

[cosmicdot]

31. L. Brent Bozell is on the"Cardinal Newman Society"'s Board of Directors

located at 10562 Associates Court in Manassas, VA 20109, about 30 miles outside of DC ...

Bozell is the person said to have filed 99.8% of all FCC indecency complaints in 2003

"Brent Bozell, a zealot of impeccable right-wing pedigree, is the nephew of columnist William F. Buckley and the son of L. Brent Bozell, Jr., who assisted Barry Goldwater with the writing of Conscience of a Conservative."
http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/brent_bozell.htm


is the Cardinal Newman Society well known?

or is just another sensational AP article involving another tax exempt sensationalist right-wing organization pushing a coordinated, radical agenda??

... "blasted" ... "liberal"


Its "president", Patrick J. Reilly, "is a contributor to Mandate for Charity: Policy Proposals for the Bush Administration (Capital Research Center, 2001), and his research is cited in Kenneth Timmerman’s bestseller Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson (Regnery Publishing, 2002)."

He founded Cardinal Newman Society in 1993, two years after graduating from University


more
http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/

is this another case where someone saw the $$ opportunity of setting up a 501(c)(3), just as one would set up a business and, if done right, it would be the path to a nice 'salary' .. ???


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329303/posts

[orpupilofnature57]

33. More repenting, for obvious atrocities, less judging liberal views, discern

-meant.

[VegasWolf]

34. Good! The zombies are waking up one by one and throwing away

their mantles of dogma and superstition.