(MRI) Scanners 'can treat depression'

[HuckleB]

Scanners 'can treat depression'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4341219.stm

"Harvard Medical School researchers found MRI scanners, which take internal images of the body, can have the same effect as standard anti-depressants.

The team employed a rarely-used type of scan known as EP-MRSI which tends to be used for brain scans.

But UK experts said they were sceptical about the findings and said more research was needed.

The team found rats experiencing stress and exhibiting helplessness - the rat equivalent of despair - recovered significantly when exposed to EP-MRSI, the journal Biological Psychiatry reported.

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Sorry about the misleading headline. I didn't write it. I swear.

:)

[uppityperson]

1. No, no, don't scan me again, I feel better, really, noooooooooo!

Maybe there is something to magnetic therapy?

[DARE to HOPE]

4. Just buy your own magnets--cheaper and safer!

A one time expense, a magnet mattress and pillow pad gives your whole body good circulation every night. At first the pillow pad can be a little too intense. But wow! You get used to deep sleep every night with a sense of healing and energy in the morning.

Add your calcium supplements at night, with coconut oil in your cooking (heals everything--look up "coconut health" on Google) and your body goes to town throughout the night, knitting up all the little assaults, especially to the brain, eyes, teeth.

Look it up--sports medicine swears by magnets, one on either side of a knee surgery hastens the healing, magnets around the wrist increases the strength of the golf swing etc. And sleeping on magnets is like sleeping on the raw earth, offsetting all the other electric signals.

Also for depression--fish oil (a sardine or anchovy every other day, or cod liver oil every day) plus B vitamin capsules. Also, a walk in the morning sun, music, especially music you make yourself, hugs, prayer--and laughter, even just on the singing vowels: a o e i u.

[mutus_frutex]

6. I absolutely LOVE this kind of message.. :-)

Do you have any kind of scientific evidence to back up all those magnificent claims. Or is it just "personal experience"?

[uppityperson]

11. it's a joke, though cats sing aeiou and aren't depressed

[mutus_frutex]

13. hehe.. Touche.. :-)

You might think I'm an idiot since I didn't realize that it was a joke, but you wouldn't believe the kind of stupidity I've heard, read and been subjected to in the past...

Cheers..

[DARE to HOPE]

19. The science of magnets goes back to Chinese medicine, far older than ours.

[mutus_frutex]

26. Self deleted..

I'm confused today.. :-)

[DARE to HOPE]

20. The science of magnets goes back to Chinese medicine, far older than ours.

You might see the following for a good summary. There are all sorts of books and articles out about the healing power of both magnets AND coconut oil.

http://www.worldofmagnets.co.uk/articles/how.htm

For coconut oil see Bruce Feif ND "The Healing Miracles of Coconut Oil."--I really was so skeptical I had to go into the NiH files myself and lo and behold! science is now FULL of little studies on the healing power of medium chain saturated fatty acids--anti-viral, anti-bacterial, cell building! Turns out they give coconut oil to both elderly patients and preemies to build strength. One thing VCO does is make all the hormones work better, giving the brain a real awakening. And the VCO makes whatever omega-3's you can get into yourself work twice as well. The central research about nutrition and the brain these days is discussed in terms of omega-3s. The whole population is deficient in these and B vitamins, which are essential for brain health and happiness.

When you get into the study of saturated fatty acids note that the "vegetable oils" we have been sold all these years, corn, soy, and CANOLA ! are making us all obese and depressed, as the extra omega-6's need more and more omega-3s to balance them. There has been no depression in this house (fear and loathing of Bushco, to be sure) since the coconut and the magnets came in.

The business about sunlight in the morning, getting indirectly into the naked eye, has been scientifically proven to lift serotonin. The value of gentle exercise, like a walk, is also touted regularly on the news as a way to fight depression. And Harvard has done a lot of work over the last 20 years on the value of such esoteric disciplines as singing and prayer.

And yes, being a clergy partner and church musician with a deep interest in health (also a trained social scientist) I can tell you what has worked not only for me, but for a host of others--we DO literally laugh, after our "line massage" when we start choir--I mean, it has been such a long dark, DARK winter! We warm up on the Italian vowels, laughing on each one, and boy, does your belly hurt when you are done! :-) You can't help but learn to sing with your diaphragm breath! Believe me, I have the halt and the lame in my choir, with several grieving loved ones this year, and they come to choir to get happier. Didn'ja ever notice how long singers and conductors live? Oh, and people of faith and laughter--my husband's aunt was 98, even though she was as big as Santa Claus--laughed and prayed through a long satisfied life.

As to the magnets again--they DO WORK!! One of our members is a car dealer--just opened a second risky shop, really a good guy, finds a car for anyone, no matter how poor, who is serious--couldn't sleep more than an hour at a time, worried constantly in spite of attempts to give it to God--finally bought himself a mattress on my say so--has slept through the night ever since. Gave all his family mattresses for Christmas--now his mother is healing her knee surgery every night!

So---take our "anecdotal" experience for what it's worth--there are studies going on every day, though a threat to be sure to those who want us to pay them on a regular basis for our God given right to health.

Wishing you much happiness!

[jokerman93]

21. :-)

Thanks for this post. :-) Some tips to try.

[ixion]

2. yeah, it makes doctors less depressed

because they make more money. ;-)

[HuckleB]

3. Well, somebody does.

I don't think it's the doctors, though.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

16. LOL!

Too true!

[hedgehog]

5. Electro shock is still used to treat intractable cases of depression

although no one is sure why it works. And please - we aren't talking One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest here. Short term memory loss tends to be a side effect, but for many it's been a literal life saver. (Suicide is a major cause of death for those with depression.)I've been wondering if magnetic waves would be just as good. Apparently others are wondering the same thing.

[TrogL]

17. I can answer that

it causes seizures.

I was on Wellbutrin for a little while. It caused seizures. After a seizure I felt much "better" and appeared "relaxed". Unfortunately I couldn't think my way out of a paper bag.

People at the office were pleased because I stopped arguing with them and telling them they were full of shit. Unfortunately, they were still full of shit and soon found out the hard way.

[Ladyhawk]

25. I've had ECT...it DID save my life.

But a few years later, I'm still experiencing serious bouts of depression.

This "magnetic wave" thing is somewhat old news. People have wondered about it for years, but so far, there is no conclusive evidence. I had an MRI in February and it didn't do squat for me emotionally. It probably requires more than one exposure to test the theory. OK, it would require many exposures to test the theory. Frankly, it doesn't hurt a bit and if they want to test it, fine.

But frankly, Vagus Nerve Stimulation looks much more promising to me:

http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/15131a.htm
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Depression/treatment/vns/index.asp

[mutus_frutex]

7. If this is confirmed, it would be huge..

For several reasons: first, mood alterations without drugs would be great. Second, the potential "evil" uses are quite deep. Finally, if it works in one direction, it should work on the other, one could alter the state of a machine by altering mental states (without a plug!).

Neuromancer, anyone? :-)

[kevsand]

8. Is it potentially addictive?

And can the technology be made smaller, i.e., portable? Or will the junkies have to wait in line for scantime?

[Ilsa]

9. I suppose Lilly, Forest, Pfizer, Novartis, et al

will find a way to kill this research.

[Baclava]

10. When aren't rats stressed?

Thankfully, I live in a pyramid-shaped house built over a ley-line vortex. (I never have to buy new razors, either.)

[98geoduck]

14. THC experimentations?

[iamjoy]

12. They Just Make Me Irritable And Tired

I mean, you lie in this narrow tube. You aren't supposed to move.
Meanwhile, there is this loud, almost staccato buzzer like sound. Oh, they give you headphones and offer to play music, but like you can hear the music over the damn machine. And then, halfway through, they pull you out to jab a needle into your arm and thread an IV (at least that contrast is better than the one for abdominal CTs which make you feel like you wet your pants) and it's back in the damn tube for more of the noise.

And that's supposed to help depression?

:hurts:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

15. So maybe there's something to those magnet bracelets?

Who'd've thunk?

[lyonn]

18. good grief, thought they only took pictures

Now they are trying to tell us that they do change things. That's nice. What else might they do?

[kodi]

22. next up, bring on the orgasmatron.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1269476.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery

[Flammable Materials]

23. I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER NOW

[shawmut]

24. yea but they also can cause anxiety

:scared: