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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:20 AM Original message |
Why would a liberal pub like Slate publish a series on “Created Equal”? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. I thought black, white, and other racial classifications were just political. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thanks for your comment. I still wonder why a liberal pub would raise the particular issue? n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Maybe they got paid a lot of money to write it. Maybe they're turning red. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Turning red! I hope not because Slate has produced some useful articles for our liberal/progressive |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yeah, they are political when it comes to gerry-mandering |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. OK but do you see this as a significant issue in the next presidential election? n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Do you mean white Mitt is going to call black-white Obama stupid or something? nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Hadn't thought about that. Could the issue be turned into an educational agenda or other focus? n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. You know, I hate to think it could be, but then I never would have |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Understand. I'm amazed and appalled at how a handful of divisive issues seized by someone like Rove |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. What if IQ tests were administered worldwide based on socio-economic |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Re your sig line. Republicans who prey together steal from We the People. n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yours is a good one. Mine is crappy. What I meant with it was that |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. LOL and occasionally get sent to prison, e.g. Randy "Duke" Cunningham. n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Not often enough. Hell, we can't even impeach the treasonous criminals. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. IMO because a complacent Dem controlled congress doesn't have the courage. n/t |
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Traveling_Home (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
13. Look at birth rates for successful adaptations to today's world |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. "ultimate measdure of success has to be birth rates", how? n/t |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
16. Poor nutrition leads to lower IQs. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Agree but my question was whether the issue will be significant in the next election? n/t |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I suppose they could make it an issue through code words |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
20. In other words, the ethnic groups with the highest levels of poverty |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. If you're correct, they also make up the majority of voters if you combine all groups into those |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Who says they didn't? Or didn't try? The votes were hacked. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. When less than 50% of eligible voters actually vote, then IMO the group in question didn't try |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Just read up on what happened to Ohio in 2004. A crapload of |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I waited perhaps 2-3 minutes and I understand why others gave up rather than wait. n/t |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. The poor are divided, hopeless, and politically powerless |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Agree. The majority of voters allow themselves to be polarized on a few divisive issues |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. I'm not for reconciliation. I see no reason and feel no need |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Understand re reconciliation but do you believe it could become a key issue? n/t |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Only to bigots |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. But divisive issues, e.g prayer in public schools, same-sex marriage, abortion, are used by |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes, wedge issue politics is a common tactic |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Almost anything can be used by nuts and racists... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I don't think so. It's too intellectual for the nutwing base. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I agree for the Bubba and Bubbette group. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. And, fwiw, I don't mean to diss anyone. And, should clarify by |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
31. Why does it have to be political at all? If there were... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. IMO the articles are quite different from Slate's typical publications. That prompted my question |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
35. By DU standards, Slate is a BushCo neoncon enabling bunch... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. If he's quoting IQ figures.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. This is why people shouldn't use wikipedia as their only source. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The article cited articles from American Psychologist, Science, Psychology, Public Policy, and Law. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The article's main source was Jensen. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. But you said "why people shouldn't use wikipedia as their only source". I simply pointed out other |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. That was a joke. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. "pseudoscientific bigotry" or a disagreement among scholars studying intelligence and psychometrics? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Pseudoscientific bigotry. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Pseudoscientific Bigotry n/t |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
44. sounds like "The Bell Curve" is back |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Makes sense to many however fifty-two professors signed an opinion statement "Mainstream Science on |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Note that this was written 13 years ago.... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. It wasn't the first (and perhaps won't be the last) bit of |
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