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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:19 AM Original message |
"Illegal looters" do turn out to be a family gathering supplies |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Maybe because I live in K-Ville, that was my first thought. |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. It was in this mornings union trib too. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. How's the air down there today? You all must be exhausted. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. Descent but I am at the coast |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Thoughts & wishes for your family. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. Heard Amy talking about this today |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I knew there was something wrong with that story on Friday. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. oh bullshit, as pointed out by respected, open minded DUers |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The danger was from fire and from ICE, not from Latinos. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I know |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. Who the fuck was running Qualcomm? The KKK? Skinheads? Who? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I don't know -- wouldn't it be the County? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Amy Goodman said local cops stopped and searched them as they were leaving |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And in trying to bust undocumented workers, homeless people |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. Well that is against SDPD policy, hope the department gets sued |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Sued? It sounds like it was planned out beforehand. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. It's against their written policy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Oh, sure. But this seems to be a trend that local law enforcement |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Once again, if there is any proof to this story |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #52 |
89. Saw a CNN clip, early last Thurs. morning, they called it "verification process" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. I read a NYTs article that said, "San Diego likes its illegal aliens |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Amy also said that ICE was in the stadium checking papers on all the HIspanics |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. The plans (yes I have seen them, long story) call for the Q |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. Kick |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
10. Gee, so the immigrant-bashers were WRONG? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'm sure they'll all show up to apologize to bob_weaver |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yeah, no doubt. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. But but but why are you defending theft???? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Oh give it time |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. LOL! They must have hitched a ride with the firefighters who came north |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. a witness at the scene says that there was a group harassing various nonwhite people... |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. another thought: what if someone set those six people up? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Well, I was just about to post how "coincidentally organized" this story seemed to be... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Sounds like it was a community project.. Some of those 'Merikans |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Here's the link to the initial story that bob_weaver posted. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. Well, at least you and I were right on the money. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. If nothing else, BushCo has finely tuned our BS detectors. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
81. Unfortunately, this does not surprise me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. It's become a pattern now. In case of emergency |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
21. AFP: Mexican "bomberos" helping California wildfire effort |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. FYI when I saw the convoy I knew it was bad |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yep. But in the middle of it all, enough time to manhandle helpless people |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Unfortunately, and not justifying it, but this happens in EVERY |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Of course. When I visited San Salvador in 68 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. LA Times: Illegal immigrants feared fire evacuations |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. AP: Four charred bodies found in migrant camp |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
27. Thanks for following up on this |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Do not be poor in a disaster area. It's dangerous. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Americanistic. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Perfect illustration. Also, illustrative of the history of US Mexico |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I wonder how many people fleeing a fire stop to grab their birth cerrificates |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm going to get on my dark curly haired cousins and my mom |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. "escorted out in the middle of the night" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I'm going to try to write about this. Maybe the Spanish language |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Good idea |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Thank you! |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
111. Here's more from the day after it happened, with some names... |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. My America. What a hideous shit hole. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. It's changed so much. I remember landing in El Salvador |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
31. My America. What a hideous shit hole. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
53. Kick |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm disappointed that the posters who raised questions about my skin color |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. They won't |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. And my DU experience will be the better for it. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
57. I called it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Go look at the link in #38 and see how many DUers did call it. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
84. So did I!!! |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
58. That is why we have different Americas - one for white people and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Today undocumented burned to death workers. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I guess a total breakdown of all civil rights. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. We've just witnessed a planned round up. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Yup. Planted a fake story to preempt any outrage. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Manipulation Central. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Ya I know, that sent chills down my spine. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I don't want to be one of those hysterical screamers. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Naw, hey I get a big bowl of nuts for actually believing a few CTs |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. It's not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be policy. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. It is amazing how politicians tap dance around torture and violation |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I've been trying to say for a long time that US citizens |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Hey ya know. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Now, there's an idea. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Once our government starts down this road |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
67. ttt n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
71. Quite the contrast to the other thread... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Go back and read that thread. A number of DUers called it out. |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I can't even bear to look at that thread again. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. There's always been a xenophobic contingent on DU. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #79 |
110. I re-read the thread in its entirety. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
103. You're right of course |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Imho, the culture is being contaminated. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
80. kick |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
87. Rancho Bernardo: Golf course crew battled to save 6 homes |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
88. Fleeing a natural disaster, confronted with discrimination...shameful! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Ya lo sabia, I knew this would happen, watching Katrina |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
104. Great post, Sir |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
90. My opinion was based on this news report. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I seem to meet you on the strangest threads. |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I'm not defending the indefensible . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Yes, you are defending the indefensible. |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. No. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Then, you are not bringing all your experience to bear |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. No. I am explaining my response in Bob's thread. That is all. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. The "resale" story has been debunked. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Damn perhaps I should have left the many American citizens |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. All of a sudden it's hate? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. No we need to organize the poor |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I never specified anything regarding country of origin. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Yes they do |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. I don't even think it's about employers although the bigger ones |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Empire, that is the word you are looking for |
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