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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:57 PM Original message |
People were killed by Three Mile Island & other nuclear disasters |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wonder how many people |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Do you really wonder |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. I do really wonder. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Because whenever anyone brings up nuclear related deaths to a |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Yes I am pro-nuke |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. France |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Take away the nuclear plants |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Renewables technology is already here. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I sympathize |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. There seems to be some confusion here... |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Nope, no confusion |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Electricity is not worth a single human life. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 07:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. That's one of the most egregiously stupid statements I've read here. |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Lots of people in this world live without it. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Power can't be generated without killing people. |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. It's a luxury and not a necessity. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-22-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. "if we had as many nuclear plants as coal plants we would truly be living in hell" |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-22-07 05:25 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Lots of people in this world die without it. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. "Electricity is not worth a single human life." |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Notice I did not say the French wanted to do away with their nuclear plants |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. exploration for petroleum |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Oil isn't the subject under discussion. Nuclear is. |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. i know it wasn't about oil |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Give it a chance - it will catch up. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Deleted sub-thread |
BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. NBC, owned by General Electric-heavy into nuke energy technology-- |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. My parents worked at Hanford from 1946 |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. People always die when high-density energy sources are involved. |
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vallie_h (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Don't Forget Chernobyl |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. OK, so what IS the option? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Stick your fingers in your ears |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. "renewables have no external costs! renewables have no external costs! renewables..." |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. How much radioactive waste is created by an operating wind turbine |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The short answer is "I don't know." Consider this... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I've also had an email exchange with an aeronautical engineer |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. What's the worst case scenario? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. The worst case scenario |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Let's be realistic |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. So if wind isn't going to plug the energy leak caused by oil and gas depletion, what is? |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. A variety of sources |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. At this time there is no "Silver Bullet." |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. "Twenty years ago it looked like energy supplies weren't going to be a bottleneck..." |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. OK, I'm confused |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Nuclear power is (at best) a stop-gap measure |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. OK, that clarifies things, thanks. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. One nice thing about hydrogen... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. The range of values reported by ExternE for each energy technology... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
75. And when you're willing to pony up the cost, be my guest. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Your point |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. then be prepared for wars with Iran and Syria and |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
62. Chernobyl |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Even now, most Americans do not realize there was a meltdown at TMI. |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. "the report, if published in its entirety, would have destroyed the civilian nuclear power industry" |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. The Western 'Downwinders' are still dying from cancer related illnesses |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. "Baltimore News-Herald"? |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Could the article be referring to the Baltimore Herald? |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. Funny stuff |
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Massacure (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. Rofl, what a great source of info. There is obviously NO bias. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
18. Report Doubts Infant Death Rise from Three Mile Island |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Three Mile Island: Health Study Meltdown |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Deadly Deceit |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Killing Our Own - Chapter 13 - Animals Died at Three Mile Island |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Killing Our Own - Chapter 14 - People Died at Three Mile Island |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
43. The problem I see there is corruption and dishonesty, |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. "Corruption and dishonesty" |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. "I have friends who've smoked for 30+ years, and are still here. Is smoking safe?" |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. we need brazillions of reactors!!! |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Well, actually 4,000 would be ample. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. but what about those brazillions of exajoules we need? |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Humans currently use a bit over 400 exajoules each year. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. damn, and I checked brazillions on the energy test :( |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Deleted message |
bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. 2004: 471EJ/y = 15TW = 15,000 1GW reactors |
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DU911 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
60. Nuclear energy related cancer and death is a myth |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
73. Gov't statistics and studies also show higher cancer around nuke plants in NJ, etc. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
74. Now if only that were true, there would be actual evidence behind it. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-22-07 05:13 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. "The people don't want truth, they want NEWS!" |
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