The one thing that really makes me giggle about Kucinich

[ShaneGR]

I'm from Cleveland. One of the things that is fairly unkown outside of Cleveland is that Kucinich is actually a congressional rep from outside of Cleveland in the suburb of Lakewood, not Cleveland.

And I can absolutely, positively, guarantee that Kucinich would never EVER be able to win an election for mayor of Cleveland (and we only elect Dems in Cleveland) let alone win a statewide election for Senator or Governor.

Just makes me giggle when I see people talking about Dennis Kucinich, the next President.

[JohnKleeb]

1. I guess but I support him with my heart is why i support him

Its an interesting tid bit though sigh if only he lived in a democratic state. Senator Kucinich damnit.

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[AnAmerican]

4. Well put Ott

That poster is making himself look foolish....not Dennis. Give him enough rope.......

[ott]

31. heh heh, thanks

But, it looks like I should just learn to use the ignore feature instead of pointing out certain posters' past.... inaccuracies.

Oh well, that's just more time for the Kucinich campaign.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

Thanks for remembering

If you hadn't remembered, I would be stepping in at this point. I, too, remember this poster's first handful of posts. I told him at the time I'd watch him during his entire stay here. I'm glad others have remembered the same thing.

[Interrobang]

3. I hope you're being sarcastic, although...

I'm glad Kucinich is from Lakewood. My pal Knute is from there, too, so I have positive associations. If you don't want Kucinich, can you please send him to Ontario? He'd make a great Premier. :)

The reason I have to ask is because I know for sure that Kucinich *did* actually win a mayoral race in Cleveland years ago, and he was called the "boy mayor." He got booted out of office by his vicious Repub opponents because he refused to privatise the city's electrical utility.

[JohnKleeb]

5. Sorry there are some Americans who want him

and I am one of em. I want Kucinich I know I am greedy but damnit he sounds like the best we could have.

[iluvchicago86]

23. John...

At this point i wanna say that kid you really have that spark. all your posts , especially when you talking about kucinich, are very wise and thoughtful. and you tolerate other peoples views to a humongous extent and we could all take some pointers from you kiddo!:loveya: and its true that should we put enough support behind the right people,"the best we COULD have" , our country can get back to being great.

[JohnKleeb]

33. I am supporting him with my heart thats why

I only have really two real qualms about him thats abortion and the flag burning amendment; now hes changed and I trust that on abortion hell he just got sponsored by leading femenists and on the flag burning Dennis isnt some crazy nationalist he did out of respect and I may disagree with that but you know I respect that. Thanks I appreciate your comments. Kucinich is like a modern day RFK to me except a more humble man.

[Dagaz]

6. Yup

He was the first mayor since the depression to take a city into default. Any chance that Rove would use that against him?

[Pepperbelly]

7. a tough sell with their boy leading the USA into bankruptcy...

I don't know if I would want to go there if I were them.

[RichM]

13. This is a ridiculous objection. First, there's no such thing as a Dem

candidate with nothing in his background that Rove could not use against him. Gore had nothing in his background - so they simply made up stuff, & in the end the stuff they made up ("serial liar, invented the Internet" etc) may as well have been real.

Second, the Cleveland bankruptcy was an example of Kucinich's STRENGTH, not his weakness. He did the right thing, against great pressure. It would have been easier for him personally to give in, but he knew it would have been giving in to blackmail, & would have cost the city in the long run. He refused to let some big business operators muscle their way into privatizing the municipal electric utility.

Third, you don't throw away an exceptional candidate with bold original ideas, just because you're scared that Karl Rove might be able to think of (or invent) something bad to say about him. Once you start acting like that, you may as well start waving the white surrender flag.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

57. The City of Cleveland awarded Dennis Kucinich in 1998

for his foresight in not selling off the publicly owned utility.
He has saved the residents(thats american people) MILLIONS of dollars in utility bills over the years.

TWL

Learn more about Kucinich rather than the media snippets...

read here:

http://www.kucinich.us/

and here for more about the Cleveland Public Power situation, in which Dennis was the HERO.

http://www.kucinich.us/issues/issue_publicpower.htm


Thanks,

TWL

[dweller]

8. Wha? No sugar tonite in your coffee? No sugar tonite in your tea?

makes sense now.
We'll keep Dennis.


dp

[theriverburns]

14. Dennis has saved me $20K

I have maintained an office and kept residence in the city of Cleveland for the past twenty-two years now. I have used CPP, the public power plant that Kucinich saved that nearly cost him his career. You know, the incident where Cleveland Trust called 1.5 million dollars of notes they held on the city because DK refused to sell them (and CEI) our municipal power plant. We'd have been bent over and "Enron-ed".

By using CPP I see varied savings of between $30 to $75 a month over what CEI charges for electric power. (that's not considering what they would have Enron-ed us for had they achieved the monopoly DK denied them) Do the math: $75 a month times 12 months = $900.00 times 22 years = $19,800.00 that Dennis Kucinich saved me, personally. As a small businessman that kind of money is substantial. Think about the other 80,000 users of CPP -senior citizens, single mothers, the working poor- who have been saving 20, 30 even 50 dollars a month beacuse of Dennis Kucinich and multiply that over the 25 odd years since Dennis took a bullet for his constituency.

I love Dennis Kucinich. And, his headquarters are in Cleveland proper.

sgr2 you are giggling at the wrong guy. Dennis is a hero.

[juajen]

35. Thank you for a great response to this thread

I think anybody that can stand up to corporatate criminals is my kind of President. I believe he could easily win any office he wanted in Cleveland or Ohio now. There are a lot of people who think he is simply great, and I'm one of them. This type of national appeal would certainly resonate with Ohio voters. IMHO, the original poster giggles alone.

[Terwilliger]

44. EVERYONE READ THIS POST

Thanks trb!!!

[JohnKleeb]

46. what a tale!

Thats his profile in courage. Thanks for that beautiful heartwarming tale trb thats one of the reasons why I support him what he did for the great city of Cleveland.

[scarletwoman]

48. Wonderful post!

I hope you don't mind my asking, but would you consider sending what you wrote to the Kucinich campaign and allowing them to use it? It's a very powerful testimonial!

I'm totally supporting Dennis, and I'm going to be doing everything I can to get delegates for him. (I'm a county unit DFL party officer in MN)

sw

[JohnKleeb]

50. well heres what I think being that you are from Minnesota

Wouldn't a great dream and we can never dream this dream now because Paul Wellstone is dead.
Wellstone/Kucinich
That would be a dream. The First Jewish president and first president from Minnesota not to mention a return to the good ol days of all around progressivism that unites all workers, farmers, students, minorities, and etc. That ticket would work IMO.

[deek]

64. thanks for the inside info

I appreciate this personal account to refute the attacks re DK "bankrupting" Cleveland.

[revcarol]

21. Hey, interro,

HAPPY CANADA DAY!!

and no you can't have him, we want him.

"Kucinich is a keeper!!"

[DisgustipatedinCA]

9. Hello, sgr2

Are you enjoying your inane giggling fit?


I know about you. I won't forget. Never.

I've pre-emptively edited the remainder of this post, so as to keep myself out of trouble with the moderators. But that doesn't mean I've forgotten about you.

[ShaneGR]

19. Uh, you in California, me in Cleveland

Makes me wonder.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

28. Stick with giggling

You may not be cut out for wondering.

[Cronus Protagonist]

10. *plonk*

Sometimes there's no point in wasting bandwidth :)

For those of you with more open minds, here's a story to read about Dennis. It's a true story.

http://kucinichforpresident.com - Kucinich Is The One





http://cronus.com/prayer - One of Kucinich's speeches

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13 - cute little buttons
http://bushspeaks.com - sardonic political toons
http://cronus.com - enlightening and educational liberal fun

Conceptual Guerilla

[Tinoire]

11. On edit: Nevermind n/t

Go Kucinich! You're kicking ass!

[saline]

12. I hate to be mean but...

As other people have pointed out, Kucinich was mayor...

How the hell could you be from Cleveland and not know that? Especially considering you know the caveat that he represents Lakewood (the tenth district to be more precise) how could you not know he was Mayor? It's about the only thing people talk about here when you mention Kucinich. "Ooohh I'm not voting for him, he made the city go bankrupt...", yeah and he saved the city in the process.

Mmmm history, ain't it a bitch?

I worked for him but still won't vote for him, he's a spoiler. I just hope he can keep his seat in Congress.

[imhotep]

15. the thing that makes me giggle about sgr2

is that he gets the honor of being the first to be on ignore with DU2.

[Wonk]

16. But

if you put someone on ignore for threads like this then you can't rate their threads like this a 1 when they post them.

I think I like the rating system :D

[bpilgrim]

17. like a small child

i can picture that :evilgrin:

peace

[ShaneGR]

18. I don't recall saying I didn't like Kucinich as a person

Just find the presidential stuff amusing to say the least. Gees, Cleveland wouldn't have needed rebuilding if... well, nevermind.

But, the K man did a lot of very cool things for organized labor. But seriously, do you think he could even beat Cambell for Mayor, let alone Bush for President?

As for the weird post about not knowing he was mayor, trust me, I know.

[saline]

25. again, I don't like being mean

I try to be nice, really, but are you insane? Read your post, you said "And I can absolutely, positively, guarantee that Kucinich would never EVER be able to win an election for mayor of Cleveland" Then you insist you know that he did (win that is). Are you being sarcastic, are you multiple personality, are you not aware of what you wrote... and then edited... and then commented on?

As for Cleveland needing rebuilding thats a matter of opinion. However I would blame it on the tax exemptions we gave to many if not all the major corporations that currently occupy our downtown. I don't think letting the public keep control of their water supply is really why our schools are failing (and thus Cleveland with it).

BTW there's a p in Campbell, but thats just me being weird again I guess. I suppose get weird about things like easily verifiable facts.

[ShaneGR]

Answer

I'm very aware Kucinich used to be the mayor. Trust me, I grew up with all of the empty warehouses, homeless people with no where to turn, african-americans on the east side who felt they'd been played by the west side, terrible baseball team, old stadium, and all around unemployment off the charts.

I know he used to be the mayor. For all of the, He saved Cleveland Public Power! talk, if the city had not defaulted.... I wouldn't have had to have seen half of the things I did in Cleveland. Default is a terrible thing, it means a lot of VERY bad things for any community.

And no matter what anyone from the West Coast tells me, I won't forget.

[AnAmerican]

30. Reality check

Bad Baseball? Empty warehouses? Minority disenfranchisement? High Unemployment? Homelessness?

Hmmmm, sounds like most, if not all, industrial cities during that time.

Dennis to blame for those situations?? Puhleeeeeze.

If you honestly believe what you are saying, I truly feel sorry for you.

Thankfully, others know Dennis for the man he truly is. They know he can do the job, they know he can get elected.

Sorry if those facts ruin your rather narrow views, but that's life.

Enjoy it.

AnAmerican

[JohnKleeb]

34. dont worry I wasnt mad but you know

I hate to sound like a weirdo but Shrub ruined Texas didnt stop him from lieing. Why not Kucinich. I am not mad at you one bit.

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[charlie]

37. While we're waiting for you,

sgr2 can dig up his mea culpa. It was days before he would even acknowledge his mistake (distortion) and I never saw an apology.

[DemBones DemBones]

24. Do you make it a habit to giggle at Democratic candidates? Not

a very positive habit for Democrats, is it? Why not promote a candidate you support instead of attacking Kucinich?

At least you have new "dirt" on Kucinich -- he actually represents Lakewood, not Cleveland. Okay. . . My dad always said he was from Cleveland but he actually grew up in Shaker Heights so I guess you'd giggle at him, too.

Just guessing, based upon experience in other cities, that people who live in Lakewood may identify themselves as being from Cleveland, at least when talking to people who don't know the area. Maybe Lakewood isn't in the city of Cleveland but I'll bet it's considered part of the Greater Cleveland metro area.

[Oracle]

26. This type of shit always make me "giggle'"...not really...

at the very least Kucinich is speaking words that simply need to be said...yes, it's very easy to find narrow minded thoughts that seek to reduce Kucinich into an irrelevant stereotypical box.

However, we all know better. We know the Republicans will steal another election and then another election (via computer voting) and to ignore what Dennis Kucinich is saying, simply because he is at best a "Dark Horse" is to be (and it's certainly appropriate,) voluntarily blind.

Let him speak and truly listen, then perhaps he won't simply be a "giggle.

This is real.

[MercutioATC]

27. I'm not giggling,...

but I live in Westlake, 2 suburbs over from Lakewood (3 from Cleveland). I personally like Dennis being in the race because I think it's important to have his positions publicized and I really appreciate him saving Cleveland Public Power. However, I'd agree that he would have a problem being elected Mayor of Cleveland (or Governor of Ohio, for that matter). I respect his idealism, but I'm more of a pragmatist. I like some of his ideas, but I'm supporting Dean.

[AnAmerican]

29. Dennis would win mayor hands down

No contest, especially against Jane (Governor on my mind) Campbell.

I grew up in Cleveland, now reside in Lakewood. Dennis would be unbeatable in the city proper, despite what a few posters here think.

Governor? A hard call, southern Ohio is way too conservative.

President? Quite within the realm of possibility. His grassroots message is awakening a whole bunch of Americans, from Maine to California, and places inbetween.

You like Dean, I have no problem with that. But ask yourself this...is pragmatism enough for your vote?

It isn't for me. I will vote for the one candidate who exemplifies what I believe in. Let the pundits chuckle, let the naysayers giggle, I will vote for Dennis, as will most who hear his message of hope.

AnAmerican

[DemBones DemBones]

38. I agree with you -- is pragmatism enough? It seems to me that

ideals usually must cater to pragmatism once someone is in office so why vote for someone who pre-emptively reins himself (herself) in?

Last night I started a thread stating that Kucinich would repeal the Patriot Act, and that he's the only candidate who's made that commitment. Others weighed in to remind everyone that presidents have to work with congresses, etc. It's true that there are always practicalities to be dealt with in making an ideal take effect.

But the point is that Dennis Kucinich has said he will work to repeal the Patriot Act. He's made this commitment one of his ten top issues. That's important to me. And it's important to me that he kept his commitment not to sell Cleveland Power because it shows he keeps his commitments even when it's difficult.

[JohnKleeb]

41. repealing the patriot act is a goal which is something you dont see

I really think that Dennis is like RFK in some ways.

[loyalsister]

60. Noble goal

however, it's a lofty and radical candidate promise. I think the process will begin with the justice department that first takes the edge off the PA first by being reasonable and democratic. Then the push begins for reform in pieces starting with libraries!! Until we return once again to where our civil liberties are full and intact.
DK is misleading all of you if you think he can just do it himself. Running with a radical agenda is never going to go over with anyone but a few politically savvy groups. The only way this will get done ESPECIALLY if there is a puke congress is piece by piece.
Ideals and pragmatism must work together. As a voter in congress DK is admirable and assertive. As a voice and activist, he apparently inspires many people. As a leader, I believe he has some very unrealistic goals and pragmatism plays a very very small role in defining them.
It appears that DK is in a great place where he is. Just like Gephardt. I wish Gephardt would grab some of the wind from Dean's sails and run for Kit Bond's seat. He might be able to win that AND then push the presidential candidate and his health care plan with all of this Democratic grassroots momentum. There's no way Gep wins even if by some bizarre miracle he gets the nomination.
THAT'S idealism and pragmatism at work in a sensible plan.

[bobthedrummer]

61. "radical"..."DK is misleading all of you" ..."unrealistic goals" n/t

:silly:

[loyalsister]

62. By radical

I was referring to the MAGNITUDE of process repeal of a huge piece of legislation presents. And the strength of ammunition it offers the opposition. Particularly, legilsation passed with a misnomer with a "soothing" name passed at a time when the general population felt vulernable. That has not been erased from memory, and it is an impossible issue to run on for that reason. The "war on terra" is still on an real in the minds of many people in this country. The reality of that needs to be recognized by candidates. I think it's actually somewhat insensitive to not consider it.
For people who aren't political junkies (MANY MANY Americans!) comfort is found in these things. Most people aren't even worried about PAI They think that it doesn't even effect them because they are law abiding citizens.

[MercutioATC]

63. I don't think so...

I think Jane would would win bigtime...

[KuroKensaki]

36. Kucinich's voting record?

Yeah.. um... Kucinich was mayor of Cleveland, and only ended up getting kicked out of office when the city defaulted--because he pissed off some banks who wanted an energy monopoly, and they took their revenge.

In any case. I toured Kucinich's website, and his stances have wowed me. I'm a registered Greenie, but I plan to go down to the library tomorrow and switch back to Dem before the primaries.

The only question I have is about Kucinich's voting records. The ACLU only rates him a 40%. He's historically had a radically pro-life record. His foreign and domestic agenda seems to be golden, except for reproductive rights--and yet, now his campaign platform touts reproductive rights as an important issue, and he's very pro-choice.

He says that he spoke to many women, listened to their concerns, and had a change of heart. I want to know he's not just saying that. Can anyone give some data and/or links to actual Congressional voting records that show a change, if indeed there was a change, in Dennis's abortion rights ideals? He seemed to be pro-life well into 2002, so he's had a pretty rapid change, and I don't know that any abortion bills have been voted on recently, but I'm just curious.

But all that aside, whether Kucinich has truly turned a new pro-choice leaf or not, I agree with him on everything else--his platform is almost identical to Nader's, and yet Dennis actually has a snowball's chance in hell of winning. All we can do is hope.

[JohnKleeb]

39. He didnt have a radical pro life voting record it wasnt good I agree

but hes not out there to criminalize abortion and I trust that hes changed also a leading number of femenists are endorsing him. He is also against that heinous patriot act. Welcome to DU anyho.

[DemBones DemBones]

43. He spoke out on the House floor against the partial birth abortion

ban and I'm pretty sure his comments or speech are on his site. And he voted against it. For a year and a half or two years before he announced his change of position, he hadn't voted on abortion legislation, he just stated that he was present and not voting.

[wheresthemind]

45. he stopped voting in 2002 on all abortion legislation

and I am really to tired to look into all the bills that have gone through since... (been working on the MN for Kucinich page all day!)

I know now he seems to be even more pro-choice then the others... saying he will use it as a litmus for potential supreme court appointees.

He said to him it was not about making abortion illegal, but encouraging life as much as possible. When the legislation became more and more about making abortion illegal, not encouraging life thats when he thought he should rethink his stance.

When I asked him about it, i sure believed him!

sorry if this is incoherent... again... very tiered!

[revcarol]

47. NARAL gave him a rousing reception.

They believe him.............

He has also publicly stated that he will not appoint any Supreme Court justices who are against Roe v. Wade standing. Women's rights is a holistic issue with him. Without reproductive rights and privacy, women are not in charge of their own destinies.They are subject to the whims of others; so having reproductive rights is primary to having all other rights. A well-thought-out position in which he genuinely believes, IMHO.

[JohnKleeb]

49. I did not know that well thats even better news

[Il_Coniglietto]

52. For abortion...

I believe the most recent was H.R. 760 (Partial-Birth Abortion Ban). Kucinich voted against it. http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2003&rollnumber=242

[Gingersnap]

55. I heard he stopped voting

on issues related to abortion (just didn't vote) two years before deciding he was pro-choice, so it is a little less sudden than it seems. I personally believe his conviction not to allow Roe v Wade to be infringed upon. I think the fact that he was prolife has to be considered in light of the fact that he is a vegan and against the death penalty, and a Catholic. Thus there's some consistency there and his stances derive from a spiritual belief in the integrity of all life. But, just like he won't get the state involved in making everyone become a vegan, I think he's decided to uphold women's right to choose (and keep the state out of women's decisions about their own bodies) even though as far as I understand, he still personally feels that abortion causes suffering.

[JohnKleeb]

56. and he opposes wars too

He's right I trust him too.

[bobthedrummer]

58. He also is on record that Roe vs. Wade

would be litmus test for SCOTUS candidates.

http://www.kucinich.us/issues/issue_10key.htm

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[JohnKleeb]

42. thats the name of that river thanks

One of my favorite Kucinich quotes is
"Why do have enough money to bomb a bridge on the Euphrates river but not enough to build a bridge on the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland."

[MrB]

51. This Thread Is Silly and Unfactual

Kucinich isn't from Cleveland? He grew up in Cleveland, served on the Cleveland city council, served as clerk of courts for the city of Cleveland, and was mayor of the city of Cleveland. He was also a State Senator from a district that included much of the West Side of Cleveland. He's basically held almost every local office in Cleveland. And while his district is primarily based in the western suburbs of Cleveland, it also includes most of Cleveland's West Side, which is very much part of the city proper. Kucinich also lists his residence as Cleveland.

Kucinich could NEVER, EVER win any elected office in Cleveland? Oh really. Even after his "debacle" as mayor, Kucinich has fared extremely well with Cleveland area voters. In 1994, he unseated a GOP State Senator in the worst Democratic year in decades (it was even worse in Ohio, as the Dem gubernatorial candidate got only 25% of the vote statewide in Ohio). In 1996, he unseated a well-funded GOP congressman. In his last three congressional elections, he has won at least 67% of the vote each time, even though his district includes many George Wallace Democrats and conservative GOPers in the suburbs. Just look at 2000: Al Gore won 54% of the vote in Kucinich's district; at the same time, Kucinich himself was reelected with 75% of the vote. I have no doubt that Kucinich could win any office in the city of Cleveland or Cuyahoga County he wished to run for at this point.

I'm not even a Kucinich supporter (I'm leaning Edwards right now), but this thread's assertions are completely baseless (as so many others have pointed out).

[Tinoire]

53. "Feminists for Kucinich" ( not 'giggling' and dead serious)

The Kucinich for President Campaign takes a big step forward today with the announcement of "Feminists for Kucinich." Eight diverse feminist writers and organizers have initiated a statement in support of Kucinich, which will be widely circulated to attract new supporters.

The original signers are:

BARBARA EHRENREICH, political essayist and author ("Nickel and Dimed");

ANGELA GILLIAM, professor and expert on Black feminist anthropology;

YNESTRA KING, writer and activist on environmental, feminist, and disability issues;

GAIL LERNER, organizer in the global women's movement and with U.N. agencies;

GRACE PALEY, peace activist and author ("Enormous Changes at the Last Minute");

ROSALIND PETCHESKY, international feminist activist and political science professor;

DIGNA SANCHEZ, Latina community activist in New York;

MEREDITH TAX, novelist, essayist and international organizer of feminist writers.

Although the statement has just started to circulate, it has already attracted signatures from such prominent feminists as Blanche Weisen Cook, biographer of Eleanor Roosevelt; Marilyn French, author of "The Women's Room"; actress and singer Ronnie Gilbert; Jewish activist and poet Irena Klepfisz; and political scientist Zillah Eisenstein.

Here's a summary of the statement. For the full statement, and to sign on: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/feminists_4_kucinich/

FEMINISTS FOR KUCINICH
Rather than waiting to hear what all the Democratic candidates have to say, then jumping on the bandwagon of the least offensive, we decided to make our own list of priorities and see who agrees with us.

1) We want a candidate who will stop the war on the poor.

2) We want a candidate who stands for peace, respects international treaties and institutions such as the U.N. and the International Criminal Court, and tries to resolve problems through negotiation.

3) We want a candidate who will defend the separation of church and state, and the individual rights guaranteed us by the Constitution.

4) We want a candidate who opposes discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, and who stands for women's reproductive rights and recognizes that these rights depend on universal health insurance.

5) We want a candidate who will address questions of global economic imbalance and stand up for the rights of immigrants.

6) We want a candidate who will challenge racism domestically and internationally.

Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate who not only agrees with all these points but has developed policies to support them: starting a cabinet-level Department of Peace; supporting unions and the right to organize; cutting the bloated military budget; restoring environmental regulations and launching a "Global Green Deal" to benefit developing countries; withdrawing from NAFTA and the WTO and challenging IMF/World Bank policies; repealing the "Patriot Act"; upholding Roe v. Wade; working for universal health insurance; and abolishing the racially and economically biased death penalty.

Because we feel that he comes closest to representing our priorities, we have decided to support Dennis Kucinich for President.
--
JULY 4 WITH WILLIE: A special thank you to Willie and Annie Nelson for their gracious hospitality at the July 4th "picnic" for tens of thousands of gleeful concertgoers in Texas. Willie introduced Dennis to the crowd -- and Willie and Annie met privately with Dennis to discuss how they can support the campaign and raise the Kucinich profile among voters. (Dennis flew to Texas after marching in July 4th parades with constituents in Ohio, and before flying on to California for various meetings, including with ILWU dockworkers and with California residents from India.)

CAN KUCINICH BEAT BUSH?: You bet he can. Go to
http://kucinich.us/electable.htm and circulate.

PLEASE DONATE: Our campaign draws the biggest crowds and biggest audience response, but we are not YET the top campaign in funding. Please contribute. If you're maxed out, please get your friends, fellow activists or rich relations to donate. Help us show that our fundraising surge at the end of June was no fluke.
https://www.kucinich.us/contribute.php

[ThirdWheelLegend]

59. Thanks Tinoire!

If you havent started this as a separate thread, please do!

Feminists for K!

It's obvious to those who take the time to learn about Dennis Kucinich that he is the voice of the people, and he is damn honest. This should help calm some of the fears that he has spent his entire life devising an evil plan to get into office to overturn RvW.

TWL

[bobthedrummer]

54. If you're giggling now just wait until the primaries and caucuses

begin and the results of the growing DK grassroots campaigning are counted, this man will no longer be a laughing matter for you, he isn't going away, my friend he's going the distance.

He is very electable by the people, polls and endorsements are reflecting that fact- the real battle is within the Democratic Party, which he will never leave.

http://www.kucinich.us/

[GOPHater]

65. Think about this for a minute

I am from Akron, years ago, but have good recollections of Dennis. Hey, if Bush can become president, well, need I say more?