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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 06:54 PM Original message |
I think I'm going to be sick (Peak Oil) |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. at least theres time! |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 04:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Not As Much As You Might Think |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. Please remember my friend |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:54 PM Original message |
Thanks for the uplift. |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. Talk about it. |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. I have have been |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's really beyond pathetic that we've been so irresponsible isn't it.. |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. To be honest, |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. One thing I plan to do |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Mine are 14-1/2 and 9. |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Me too. |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
110. You know, |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. We truely live in the Golden Age |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. At least I'll be able to tell my grandchildren |
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junker (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. namaste. Do not worry overly about Universe. There are |
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junker (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. check out growbiointensive.org. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes, it will be ugly... |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. btw, war spoils are coming... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. then this one will make you plainly despondent |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. I've been there, |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I mean Dem Underground Energy & Environment forum.......eom |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Oh! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. Here's a hint for people: |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The necessary equipment? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I won't say. Buy the book: |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Boy, we're Mr. Sunshine today, aren't we??? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Asteroid vs Oil Crunch |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Given the collection statistics of the last 4 years... |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
86. how global warming could precipitate an ice age: |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. Knowing the statistics... it's curtains, even the asteroid misses Earth.. |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
78. hey, stick around to gloat! |
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Dees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. The fact that we are still pulling stuff up out of the ground |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. NASCAR would be a good start... |
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Donkeyboy75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 02:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
102. Sure. There were |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. What about the guy who invented the segway |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Made with lots of plastic... |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. No silly It's a different invention of his |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. I do not think any one cares. They have been saying this for years. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. I went through a similar despair 25 years ago |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Read this... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I'm not dismissing the crisis |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. there's a lot more oil and gas than these people realize |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. its how much is "economically recoverable" - not the physical amount |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. The amount recovered in the future will not equal today's |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I wish I had read your post first |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I would not be so assured |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I did say "somewhat" |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Reserves May Be Overstated |
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jason_au (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Lots more, perhaps, but not infinite oil |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Several weeks ago, |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Helium 3 (Moon) |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yeah, I read that last night too. |
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arrogantatheist1000 (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 07:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
77. nuclear power can easily do it |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 11:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
95. Maybe they'll find Lovecraft's lost civilization... |
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porkrind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
91. Thanks for the info ! |
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kysrsoze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 12:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
99. There is oil and gas available - we just have to figure out how to get it |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
108. experts speak of "ever-more unforgiving production results" |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. BP, GE, other companies cashing in on oil are switching over |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. It'll backfire |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. A researcher in Japan |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. A small note of hope for you |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That process like many others is energy negative |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. It's energy negative |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
42. It does put everything into a different perspective, doesn't it? |
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midnight armadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 02:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
101. Earthship |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. I posted this in another thread |
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nefarious (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. Politically motivated to prevent alternatives too soon. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Do I have to remind anyone that history repeats itself? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. Relax (a little) the website you are citing is much too |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Either way, |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 03:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. In some ways it's not even going to be 'US' |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 04:15 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Right, JCMach1 |
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kevinam (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. okay, I am just skimming through it... |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I've been reading a variety of sites all over the net today |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Here's another one I just found: |
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Donkeyboy75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
104. Ammonia is made from the catalytic |
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pacifictiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
60. ok, so we'll all have to adjust our life styles |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
94. Ever hear of global carrying capacity? |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #60 |
96. And its not the only catastophy ahead of us |
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JasonDeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
61. I think this is great news! |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Oil may be the scourge of humanity, |
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JasonDeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. We have the capability NOW |
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kysrsoze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
100. I'd say 150 MPG is pushing it, but 100 MPG is certainly possible |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Volkswagen is selling a CLEAN 95 mpg turbodiesel |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. And who gets to patent it? |
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plurality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
65. Don't get sick, get ready! |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
67. I understand...my wife wants to have kids... |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 12:45 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. That's a tough one, isn't it. |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 12:31 AM Response to Reply #69 |
97. Might I suggest she consider adoption then ? |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
68. Suspicious... |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. thank you for your post. the paranoia and fear around here lately can |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. You know, |
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HydroAddict (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Thanks for the sanity break Charlie... |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #68 |
82. I'd like to thank you for this perspective too |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. We seem to be on the same timeline! |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. You got it! |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
93. Uh, yeah, that website's just a *bit* over the top. |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #68 |
98. Might I suggest reading through this thread... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
71. Do suppose this will be before or after the "peak water" crisis? |
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Dirty Hippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
74. Somewhere I read that Bush's Crawford ranch |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I have heard this, too, |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 02:36 AM Response to Reply #74 |
106. dont know that there will be |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
84. Kick... |
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carols (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
85. Growing your own food - help! |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. just a suggestion |
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Bdog (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
88. Bio-alcohol is a long term and sustainable alternative. |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
90. This country can meet almost ANY oil-stoppage |
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Bdog (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-29-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I agree |
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Donkeyboy75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
105. Hello, Suspicious |
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gold_bug (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
107. refuting the Hubbert Peak crew |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 08:48 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Thanks for the information. |
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thedude (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-04 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
111. There is hope, although we must act now |
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