Reply #84: It isn't a welfare program and making it more progressive won't make it a welfare program.

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Means testing would make it but nobody serious is suggesting that so it is just a strawman you bring out from time to time.

The reality is support for SS even among the rich is high. It is the ultimate safety net. There are plenty of middle class people who were once rich due to lawsuit, fraud, criminal activity, illness, or death in family. While they may not be struggling SS allows them to stretch their money further.

Just because the deal isn't a sweet (lower ROI) doesn't mean you will see widespread support to demolish it.