Reply #117: The park is about 500 feet by 500 feet. Here are some picture before the police tore down the tents

[WildNovember]

I see tents and signs but no piles of shit. I also don't see random piles of garbage lying around.

If you take a look at the park on google maps you can see that the few trees in the park are trimmed well above ground level. There is nowhere to shit that you wouldn't be in full view of the people in the park a/o the traffic going by the park. It's not a wilderness, it's a 500 x 500 foot space literally on the steps of city hall. Mostly filled by tents. Do you really think people are shitting and peeing on the ground next to their tents or other peoples tents? You must really have a jaundiced view of people.

Of course, if you tore down all those tents and threw the stuff inside them around, it would look like a big mess. But the police did that, not the protestors. The "tons of debris" mentioned in that report are the torn-down tents and signs.

But I think they're stretching it when they talk about "30 tons". I doubt 100 tents and tarps would be more than a couple of 1-ton trucks max, so not really sure where the other 28 tons would come from. There weren't 28 tons of signs, and i doubt there were 28 tons of personal effects.

Here's an account from someone not particularly sympathetic to the protest. He mentions the smell of patchouli, but not the smell of urine.

http://www.tomcroom.com/?p=8401

The media have an agenda, as you learn when you read media accounts of a protest that you have actually attended.