Reply #183: You seem awfully hung up on what I can only imagine is a very specific example

[Warren DeMontague]

that you keep insisting I'm defending.

So let me ask you- what "depiction of rape" do you think it is I'm defending? The only thing I've "defended" in this thread is the right of CONSENTING ADULTS to make up their own damn minds about what to do with their own bodies or to display to other CONSENTING ADULTS. That is a very broad philosophical point, and if I'm "obsessed" with it, it's because I think it's pretty fucking fundamental and self-explanatory.

So I ask again: WHAT depictions of rape are you talking about? Like interminable debates here where some religious people invariably complain about alleged "religion-bashing", the people most excised and angry seem to be the people who are TOTALLY UNWILLING TO DEFINE, IN CONCRETE TERMS, WHAT THE HELL THEY'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

To wit, what exactly are you talking about? Porn? Advertising? Shows on the major networks? Can you offer a concrete definition of what you consider "porn"? Are you asserting that somehow most "porn"- however you define it- consists of "depictions of rape"? What is the basis, statistical or otherwise, for making that assertion?

You have someone upthread who gives a much more cogent explanation of why she, and other CONSENTING ADULTS, enjoy bondage porn involving, again, CONSENTING ADULTS. If those are the alleged "depictions of rape" you're talking about, I would refer you to that subthread.

Beyond that, I think ADULT women, just like men, should be free to make their own damn decisions about what to do with their bodies both in front of and not in front of a camera. I also think consenting adults- men and women- should be free to watch other consenting adults as per above. How believing women should be free to make their own damn choices in sex and entertainment translates to "having no regard" for them, simply escapes me.