Reply #15: I agree with you...

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Which is why it would be nice if given how much of a no brainer it is that the vast majority of people wanted to save medicare and social security, and are in favor of collective bargaining and civil rights, if one of the parties had leadership that would come out unequivically and forcefully on the side of those things.

Maybe in the next year or so we'll get that. But right now all I see is one side that wants to destroy those things, and another side who is content to largely sit back and let the other side implode and deal with the anger from that rather than actually standing up forcefully FOR those things. And maybe also sort of agree that "we must do something but just not what THEY want to do."

You're right....no choice. Plan on voting so that we at least stand an outside chance of saving and preserving those things and not allowing them to be gutted by evil Repubs.

But I'm sorry the contrast and choice is far from stark. You and I know what the choice is and the majority of political junkies on DU know it. But a lot of low information voters don't. They see 1 side that wants to do away with those things, and another side that says "Well, maybe we kind of don't COMPLETELY need to do away with those things....but we all need to sacrifice so lets agree to do SOMETHING."

So yeah, unfortunately that is going to get my vote, but if you think it's going to be enough to convince enough people, then I'm not so confident.