Reply #22: I'm not in lots of threads arguing or debating issues day after day but

[jp11]

by and large I've seen more 'suck it I'm right' than thoughtful arguments or facts and when thoughtful arguments or facts are presented I see virtually no willingness to even entertain an opposing view or recognize that view. Really hard to convince or open eyes if everyone is plugging up their ears and screaming la la la la. Every now and then I do see a discussion that ends in "we'll agree to disagree" but those seem far and few between.

Having said that I do recognize I don't know everything and I will reevaluate my position when new evidence is presented etc. *I* feel most of the people I encounter aren't like that, could be my misinterpretation, it seems too many have dug in an spout off the same position regardless of any counter arguments, often not even entertaining counter arguments for a second.

Granted some arguments are going to be 'old' ones they themselves may have discounted previously but it is far more helpful to the conversation to sum up why it is discounted rather than 'oh not that crap again'. For people who don't follow those things ad infinitum it might be helpful to explain WHY now and then instead of "I'm not doing your research/work for you now shut up you are wrong" or "you're living in a dream world, get real" neither is a way to have a productive conversation.