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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:38 AM
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16. This is a false dichotomy
What is this meant to prove? No one asserts that Obama hasn't done anything in office. Those who criticize Obama from the left typically see those "accomplishments" as weak, ineffective to their stated ends, or the product of corporate scheming.

For instance, you list DADT's end as an "accomplishment." It's not: the Pentagon was in some never-ending "study" pursuant to dropping the ban when a FEDERAL COURT made a court order to end it. You can't attribute that to Obama or Democrats because it was done by a court.

You also have several healthcare "accomplishments." On the other hand, Obama -- in secret negotiations -- bargained away both the public option and drug importation as a gift to the healthcare and pharmaceutical companies, in direct contravention of what he said in the campaign.

You can string together a list of every little thing the administraion has done, but you prove nothing. You're creating a big strawman and knocking him down. Nobody says that the President has done nothing. The point of contention is that, with each bullet point above, he could have gotten a better, more progressive outcome if he would fight for us.

On the other hand, since you reflexively defend anything Obama does, do you really care more about praising the man Obama than actually accomplishing progressive policy? If so, why?
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