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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:18 AM
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46. The benefit does not necessarily have to be pecuniary for it to be fraud...
to engage in fraud to get others to commit illegal acts which result in benefit to the perpetrator might qualify.

But are you a lawyer?

Why is the term entrapment problematic? It was not a legal sting where such tactics might or might not be legal or proper.

If I solicit a prostitute for sex with the intent of exposing him or her is that not an illegal act even if I have no intent to go through with the act?

If I solicit another to rob a bank so that I can get them in trouble am I not guilty of conspiracy?

I do not think it is as clear cut as you claim.

Also, the socalled brilliance o the "sting" is actually BS once you look carefully at the facts (which are not what has been asserted in the right wing media).

The mens rea to commit a crime goes to the intent to commit a fraud where the perpetrator stands to gain something of value from the person being defrauded: has there been gain or advantage for these perpetrators rom their videos and tapes?

I think this legal question needs to be lookeda t a little more carefully and not dismissed out of hand.

If a civilian solicits prolifers to bomb a planned parenthood center isn't that wrong and illegal if not done by law enforcement? Law enforcement as government operators have immunity --- but should civiians taking these laws into their on hands?

I do not really think so in this case.

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