Did you guys know the problem with Bush is that he listened to Reid and Pelosi....

[OneGrassRoot]

too much and caved to their demands?

:eyes:

Wow. Alternate universe time, for sure.

Needless to say, I just got off the phone with a right-wing relative who spouted the typical RW talking points (Powell's endorsement was ALL about race, Obama is the one who made race an issue, his radical liberal beliefs will ruin this country, PALIN is the PERFECT person to lead the country, etc., etc.).

Just wow.

But the kick in the ass was a rather fascinating discussion about politics, religion and theocracy.

Because he is a "true Christian" which, in his literal biblical interpretation view means that he and other "good Christians" must proselytize, he doesn't see how a politician can separate religious views from political actions/governance (he talked about Biden saying he is a good Catholic yet won't impose that on others).

Yet, in the next breath, he says he doesn't want a theocracy.

:shrug:

Whaaaaaaa?

He doesn't believe in separation of church and state and believes The Founders intended this to be a nation governed by Judeo-Christian values.

I think I found my litmus test: if someone believes in a LITERAL interpretation of the bible, that impacts ALL RATIONAL interpretation of anything else, and therefore they want to live in a completely different world than I do. No doubt, all religious types who believe in a LITERAL interpretation of their sacred texts are the same.

No, if they believe in a literal interpretation of texts thousands of years old, interpreted and translated by innumerable humans over the course of time, they need to live somewhere where they can rely on GOD and GOD ONLY to provide them with health and prosperity, without impacting other human beings not of the same belief.

Oh yeah, the real kick in the ass is how these same "fundamental, evangelical Christians" talk about The Word yet refuse to live by it; fuck the poor -- everyone who is in a less-than-wonderful situation is there STRICTLY by choice, including the homeless veterans.

At first he attacked me when I mentioned that one-quarter of the homeless are veterans -- he said I'm listening to John Edwards too much -- but then said, "Even if it were true, they are there by choice and don't have to be there."

Sorry if there are typos and words left out, but these interactions always leave my head spinning and my hands shaking.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....................take me away, Calgon.............