Reply #43: I read some of it - total bullshit!!

[RainDog]

In the last part about "vanity fair," the author talks about issues but NEVER defines what the issue with natural selection really is, beyond saying that the idea of form matters too - and this is mentioned in relation to explaining "where form came from." -- again, this is not evolutionary biology.

Stuart Newman has long maintained the public should share in scientific knowledge because American science is publicly funded. In fact, he’s written eloquently about the ethics of this: "In a society with democratic values it should be inarguable that those who pay for scientific research and will eventually experience its effects should be informed of what is in store while there is still a chance to discuss its objectives and influence its course."

--so, the article is saying that because we live in a "democratic" society, those in this society with no fucking clue about science should be able to weigh in on whether it's good or bad science. Why don't we extend that to the operating room-- let a surgeon have a cross section of citizens who can also make decisions about a surgery b/c we live in a democratic society. it's the exact same bullshit idea.