Reply #128: I, too, knew we were doomed in 2004. Mr Nay and I had hoped to

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be able to wait until we retired to flee, but that may not be possible. Like many folks, I have given up trying to warn people of the danger. They either think I'm weird or, worse, they LIKE the way things are going -- they think the powers-that-be will find them valuable enforcers. They truly do not know they are disposable trash. Then there are the fundies, who can hardly wait for the war with Iran because that means they get raptured up! When I ask them why the Iraq War wasn't enough to rapture them up, I honestly get the feeling they are waiting and hoping for the nukes to fly. THAT is what is required. Have I said how much I hate this place?