Reply #13: Here's a bit of paradox-we the people know who presides over the FISA

[bobthedrummer]

system, that's democratic enough it meets transparency in those cases that follow the criteria to get legal authority for surveillance of a person or group seriously suspected of being in league with a foreign agency that is up to no good against America.

That is why FISA was passed in 1978, shortly after the investigations of both the Church and Pike Committees, FISA was one of the responses to the call for reform.

Historically, FISA court members have never turned down a request.

Since we the people have a right to know who our government officials are, and our representatives the power to exercise oversight and regulate them in our interests here's a link to John Young's Cryptome web site and a recent post.

"Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Members"
http://cryptome.org/fisc-members.htm

But the criminal administration of George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney combined with the "privatization" of government and the criminal use of the national security shield of secrecy has resulted in the paradox of Americans living in a police state where our Constitution and Bill of Rights have been papered over incrementally by a group of RW extremists, following a treasonous agenda.

We the people are paying bills to telecom companies that have spied on us for political purposes, we the people have paid taxes to help finance a world wide gulag system that tortures and disappears people, we the people have financed private military companies, etc.

And there is no real accountability as of yet, our representatives haven't acted on our urgent messages for accountability.

We haven't even seen the reports of The Pike Committee, if there are any-they are still held by the House.

A coup has occured here that began with the installation of the George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney that have constructed the infrastructure of an extreme politicized police state, among other crimes.