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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:52 PM
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97. What's the difference between "revenge" and "justice"?

The terms overlap more than they don't. Both terms describe punishment for a wrong. The only difference is that the revenge seeker may gain some satisfaction from implementing the punishment.

Why is revenge such a bad thing when tempered by the law and due process?


Here are the entries for the terms from Dictionary.reference.com

re·venge
pronunciation verb, -venged, -veng·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, esp. in a resentful or vindictive spirit: He revenged his murdered brother.
2. to take vengeance for; inflict punishment for; avenge: He revenged his brother's murder.
–verb (used without object)
3. to take revenge.
–noun
4. the act of revenging; retaliation for injuries or wrongs; vengeance.
5. something done in vengeance.
6. the desire to revenge; vindictiveness.
7. an opportunity to retaliate or gain satisfaction.


—Related forms
re·venge·less, adjective
re·veng·er, noun
re·veng·ing·ly, adverb

—Synonyms 1. See avenge. 4. requital. Revenge, reprisal, retribution, vengeance suggest a punishment, or injury inflicted in return for one received. Revenge is the carrying out of a bitter desire to injure another for a wrong done to oneself or to those who are felt to be like oneself: to plot revenge. Reprisal, formerly any act of retaliation, is used specifically in warfare for retaliation upon the enemy for its (usually unlawful) actions: to make a raid in reprisal for one by the enemy. Retribution suggests just or deserved punishment, often without personal motives, for some evil done: a just retribution for wickedness. Vengeance is usually wrathful, vindictive, furious revenge: implacable vengeance.
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re·venge (rĭ-věnj') Pronunciation Key
tr.v. re·venged, re·veng·ing, re·veng·es

1. To inflict punishment in return for (injury or insult).
2. To seek or take vengeance for (oneself or another person); avenge.


n.

1. The act of taking vengeance for injuries or wrongs; retaliation.
2. Something done in vengeance; a retaliatory measure.
3. A desire for revenge; spite or vindictiveness.
4. An opportunity to retaliate, as by a return sports match after a defeat.



re·veng'er n.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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revenge
1375, from O.Fr. revengier, from re-, intensive prefix, + vengier "take revenge," from L. vindicare "to lay claim to, avenge, punish" (see vindicate).

To avenge is “to get revenge” or “to take vengeance”; it suggests the administration of just punishment for a criminal or immoral act. Revenge seems to stress the idea of retaliation a bit more strongly and implies real hatred as its motivation. <"The Columbia Guide to Standard American English," 1993>

The noun is first recorded 1547.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
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revenge

noun
1. action taken in return for an injury or offense

verb
1. take revenge for a perceived wrong; "He wants to avenge the murder of his brother"

WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
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revenge1 noun
harm done to another person in return for harm which he has done (to oneself or to someone else)
Example: The man told the manager he would get/have his revenge / take revenge on the company for dismissing him; His revenge was to burn down the factory.



jus·tice /ˈdʒʌstɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.
2. rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.
3. the moral principle determining just conduct.
4. conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.
5. the administering of deserved punishment or reward.
6. the maintenance or administration of what is just by law, as by judicial or other proceedings: a court of justice.
7. judgment of persons or causes by judicial process: to administer justice in a community.
8. a judicial officer; a judge or magistrate.
9. (initial capital letter) Also called Justice Department. the Department of Justice.
—Idioms
10. bring to justice, to cause to come before a court for trial or to receive punishment for one's misdeeds: The murderer was brought to justice.
11. do justice,
a. to act or treat justly or fairly.
b. to appreciate properly: We must see this play again to do it justice.
c. to acquit in accordance with one's abilities or potentialities: He finally got a role in which he could do himself justice as an actor.


—Related forms
jus·tice·less, adjective
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Jus·tice /ˈdʒʌstɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. Donald, born 1925, U.S. poet.
2. a town in NE Illinois. 10,552.
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jus·tice (jŭs'tĭs) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. The quality of being just; fairness.
2.
1. The principle of moral rightness; equity.
2. Conformity to moral rightness in action or attitude; righteousness.
3. The upholding of what is just, especially fair treatment and due reward in accordance with honor, standards, or law.
4. Law The administration and procedure of law.
5. A judge.
6. A justice of the peace.
3.
1. The upholding of what is just, especially fair treatment and due reward in accordance with honor, standards, or law.
2. Law The administration and procedure of law.
3. A judge.
4. A justice of the peace.
4. Conformity to truth, fact, or sound reason: The overcharged customer was angry, and with justice.
5. Abbr. J. Law
1. A judge.
2. A justice of the peace.






The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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justice
1140, "the exercise of authority in vindication of right by assigning reward or punishment," from O.Fr. justise, from L. justitia "righteousness, equity," from justus "upright, just" (see just (adj.)). The O.Fr. word had widespread senses, including "uprightness, equity, vindication of right, court of justice, judge." The word began to be used in Eng. c.1200 as a title for a judicial officer. Meaning "the administration of law" is from 1303. Justice of the peace first attested 1320. In the Mercian hymns, L. justitia is glossed by O.E. rehtwisnisse.

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justice

noun
1. the quality of being just or fair
2. judgment involved in the determination of rights and the assignment of rewards and punishments
3. a public official authorized to decide questions brought before a court of justice
4. the United States federal department responsible for enforcing federal laws (including the enforcement of all civil rights legislation); created in 1870
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