Reply #67: Keep saying it, nadin. And keep saying it and keep saying it...

[tom_paine]

Like a pebble in a pond, at least if we are not going to stand up and stop it we can at least raise people's awareness of the issue so at least they will have a little more heads up than they would have had if they never considered it at all.

I think the window for that is probably already closed, with not just the massive amount of systemic aspects that need to be healed, but the simple fact that at least 30% of Amerikans simply have been taught not to like American Values, and most of the rest, with the death of High School Civics class, don't understand what the Bushies are trying to destroy and what we are trying to defend, even just by speaking out about it (though many of us have done much more than that since 2000).

We don't have enough people who really want to preserve the System of Checks and Balances, let alone enough to go out and take actions such as sit-ins or civil disobedience or any of the other stuff that Nazis and Bushies laugh at and roll over, greasing the treads of their tanks (or bloodlessly "grease" their tazers and microwave weapons, to update for the new totalitarianism) with their victims.

THAT is the problem. It was the same problem that the Romans had when Caesar came along. Though I think this particular aspect ofthings does not analogize well to Weimar Republic and Nazi Germany (at least there are some things that yet don't, right?) because they did not have the long traditions that Rome and the old USA did.