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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 03:40 PM
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"When the Irish came over, they were treated more-or-less the same as their African-American contemporaries. Same with the Polish; same with the Italians. The difference is that a second-generation Irish immigrant does not appear any different from a seventh-generation American of English descent, whereas a fifth-generation African-American is still clearly distinguishable from that English-American"

But unlike anti-Irish sentiment, anti-black sentiment continues until today. It's a legacy of slavery. That's why it's so much worse in the South. The Jena 6 are a perfect example.

"First, white people give preferential hiring to white people, depressing the financial situation of black people. Secondly, white people and black people begin living in different communities, due to mutual distrust (though with the "blame" lying far more heavily on whites than on blacks). This results in not only individual black poverty, but (crucially) regional poverty, in which blacks have fewer economic opportunities, as their local economies are absolutely shattered. Thirdly, whites pick up their houses and businesses and leave, further harming black communities. All the while, black educational opportunities are lower, at first because of segregation and later because of decreased tax revenue in black-dominated areas due to the above."

This is an argument in favor of economic reparation.

"A one-time cash payout would not solve anything at all."

Sure it will. This is why one time cash pay outs are so common in civil cases. It will help cover the lack of the raise his employer didn't give him. It'll allow his to move out of the apartment his racist slum-lord owns. It'll allow him a new car so he won't be late to work because his car breaks down. He can send the kid to a better school. All the things you mentioned that were depressing the financial situation of black people can be addressed.

Does it do everything? No, the white racist boss will still be around. Which is why we'd still need things like affirmitive action.

"a more efficient way to solve *this* problem is to lower tax rates in impoverished areas for local businesses, provide preferential hiring for city contracting to local workers instead of large firms, and to increase the state burden on education to make up for the loss in revenue."

That's more efficient?

"I'm honestly not sure why we still allow the poorest areas to have the worst schools."

C'mon.

"And no matter what the guy does with his money, for many it's probably gone within a few years; many, many lottery winners, athletes, and pop stars simply increase luxury spending end up destitute within a few years after the cash stops coming in, no matter their race or their background."

Yeah, this is the same "black people aren't good with money" argument the other guy made.


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