Reply #281: I know what you are saying.....

[demgurl]

but you can not just give poll numbers and not take it to the next logical step. Yes, the poll you stated above does say the majority of Americans do not favor impeachment. I will give you that. You are right.

When posters say the majority of Americans want this they are not saying it for the numbers, they are saying they are frustrated with our leaders and the unasked question, that should be assumed, is why are our leaders not doing anything?

I guess I am a lot like Homeland Security. I see the numbers and I get a 'gut' feeling about Americans. We can go into all sorts of things like psychology and bring up things such as when you do not see others demanding it you are more likely to not demand it yourself. It is like when someone gets attacked but everyone stands around doing nothing because when they look around everyone else is doing the same thing.

But there is ultimately more to it. There is also the fact that most of the country have been shielded from Bush's deeds by the media. Heck, when I tried to educate my family they asked me not to write any more because they did not want to hear it!

Then there are the 32 percenters who would never abandon Bush just because there is an 'R' next to his name and fuck the country, always go for politics!

I guess what I am really trying to say is a few people have said they see your side but we can not work together as a country if you do not try and see the other side. You just dismiss people by saying things like 'that's beside the point'. Maybe if we could have a little more conversation we all might get along a little better and many point of views could be validated since people take the time to think a lot of these out.

If we really must only concentrate on the numbers then so be it. The numbers come with a point about our leaders. Perhaps these people saw a different poll then you or are taking into consideration the pluses and minuses of the numbers. With that, they are almost even. (yes, not ahead) But I think people are also trying to give the American citizens the benefit of the doubt. They believe the citizens have been shielded and once the information starts dripping out they will see the light.

I think the basic reason why so many people are saying 'besides the point' type of things is that a lot of times we infer things from statements. With the posters you talk about I infer not that they are pollsters but that they want our government to start moving forward and they wish everyone would get on board. When I first saw your post it really came across as correcting those who want to impeach and silently asking why we are even looking at the issue at all. Did you say this? No, but look at some of the answers people gave. It came across that way to a lot of people and when you are responsible for posts like that you just need to take a step back, perhaps edit it, and just have a polite conversation with those who choose to interact with you. I am not saying that inferences are always right but I am saying when so many people seem to be getting the same inference then we must look within ourselves and correct what they see. Something made people say the things they did.

And, once again, your numbers state what you say they state.