Reply #30: Of course he will win. That is not my point.

[madfloridian]

He is just another in the long line of capitulating party leaders who have lead us to this place in history.

We worked our butts off and cared with our hearts in 2003, saw Dean brought down by a party that considered him fringe.

We worked again in 2006 and 2008.

Look where we are. Our president just insulted those he considers liberals, whether they are moderate or left or whatever. Anyone who doesn't go along is labeled left or fringe.

No one forced our Democrats to do this. They got to this point by wanting corporate money more than they wanted to stand for their beliefs.

I don't care if you are a moderate. I was raised in a fundamentalist mostly Republican with career military...the stereotypical conservative family.

I have changed because I see the danger in capitulating anymore.

This is a sad time in our country. And I and others must walk on eggshells in criticizing or we won't be here anymore. So many good ones gone just lately. Heartbreaking.