Reply #143: typical "voters have more say than judges" BS and empty arguments like that

[alp227]

Look. Not everything can be voted on. Guess what? A majority of people are uninformed dimbulbs too! That's why majority vote can't decide minority civil rights. I've already had some friends on Facebook complain about this case with the same ol' same ol' "voters have more say than a judge" line passively without any compassion or consideration for the rights of gay couples. I mean really? Has Prop 8 really protected marriage? Have the Defense of Marriage Act or any of those anti-equality measures helped preserve the sanctity of good ol' heterosexual marriages? I think not. Look at all the divorces by homosexuals who tried and failed to get into a "traditional marriage". And then you have the usual short-lived celebrity marriages (one California celebrity Heidi Montag filed for divorce; her marriage lasted from Nov. 2008-this summer.) And then the usual cycle of dissatisfied husbands and wives and domestic violence. And homosexuality is seen as a big threat? Yes, of course there exists domestic violence and same relationship issues with gay couples as with straight couples! But doesn't it show that no matter what our sexual orientation we encounter many of the same tribulations and drama in our lives and can be good citizens?

The "what about the children" argument falls apart because of the numerous, NUMEROUS studies showing that gay parents can be just as effective as straight parents as well as the anecdotal tales of abusive hetero parents.

That tired old "polygamy and bestiality and crimes against nature" bollock argument can be easily disproven if you'd take a trip to Canada, France, any of the 5 American states already having SSM, or both Washington the DC and state.

I'll say this once and say it again:

Human rights should never depend on a majority citizen vote.

Have the gay rights groups ever written a proposition that sought to dissolve all straight marriages? NO.

Have the atheist groups ever written a proposition to make worship illegal? NO.

So why the hell do the Religious Right groups have to make coexistence with gays such a big freaking deal?

I can't believe that it's the 21st century and we still have to have a freaking DEBATE over whether gays should be able to get married. Every time I hear a soundbite on the news about "the judge overturned the people's vote" or "gays will harm society" I lose a brain cell.