Reply #124: Forgot to include the link, it is now up for you

[MadHound]

And what theme is that which you see? That they're correct. I provided you with numbers, and like I said before I'll provide a post a bibliography if you really want it.

As far as my tone goes, well, as you say, it is the wild and wooly internet, and I'm not one of those meek and mild type of liberals. In fact I'm a rather blue collar type of liberal, a blue collar type of academic and intellectual. You didn't insult me directly, but your tone of complete and utter dismissal, especially with only Wiki backing your ass up in your OP was indeed a bit grating, especially to one who has worked in a nuclear plant for a number of years and done academic presentations on alternative energy. You can't deal with that, fine, that's your problem. If you want to continue to discuss/debate this, fine. Either way, I don't care except for the fact that I'm going to bed here shortly.

Anyway, as far as France and Japan goes, let me let you on to a few things. Yes, they are generating a large portion of their energy today from nuclear power. What are they, or any other nuclear country for that matter, doing with their waste. Well, France is notorious for dumping it into the ocean, and Japan has done the same. Meanwhile, the past couple of years in France they've had a bit of an energy crisis as the summers are hot and dry. The rivers drop below the level needed for safe nuke operation and voila! For weeks they have to import power at a large expense.

So, even assuming our rivers never run dry(wait, they have been) what are you going to do with the waste? There is no safe disposal of it, so what are you going to do with it? Yeah, that old brick wall.

And again, why are we pursuing an energy course that takes taxpayer subsidies and still costs more than wind or solar. That's just stupid economically.

Oh, and as far as pie in the sky solar goes, tell that to the local builders in my area, who've already built 500 homes that generate their own power via thin film photovoltaics in the past two years. That's reality friend, as are every single other technology I mentioned. You can buy them right off the shelf so to speak. Yes, what this means is that you're front loading the energy bill on your house, but over the course of 17 years (again, average house, your mileage may vary), you can pay that front load off and be getting pure profit and free energy for the next thirteen years(thirty years is the average lifespan for the thin film solar and windbelts, much of the other stuff lasts the life of the house).

But hey, if you don't want that, if you don't like that, fine. While you've got your head stuck in the sand, I'll be raking in the big bucks and free energy. Enjoy!