Reply #445: "But I have a nagging feeling that there is a limit to how effective many DUers want us to be."

[omega minimo]

How many people have left DU because of bullies and how many serial bullies remain? How many gravedances on the TS of serial troublemekers that abused at DU for 4 years or more, for no apparent reason? How effective is it to let them remain?

The population and the tone of DU, the culture is created by the long term presence of bullies and troublemakers who feel free to carry on, despite repeated protests and alerts from other DUers.

Which "many DUers" are you referring to? The ones who remain or the ones who have given up?

"Sure, we'll gladly accept it when the moderators crack down on people who hold opposing points of view, but when they start cracking down on the people we agree with we always seem to find a reason why it is unfair and unwarranted."

That may be the case for some who don't understand the concept. What "many DIUers" want is what you have proposed -- that the conflict is not "crack down on people who hold opposing points of view," but to "keep this community open to a broad range of progressive viewpoints" by HOW we address the topic and each other: non-abusively.