Reply #67: Of course they're going to be repressive either way

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That's what repressive types do. But that's part of the rationale behind the "choice" argument. If the "choice" argument is hokum, they'll simply concoct another argument to justify their bigotry. It's tedious, tiresome crap, but it has to be met every stinking time because the alternative is "They don't have an answer!" in the same triumphant tone you'll hear from a five-year-old who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Off topic, but a thread gets a "flaming hot" avatar when it goes over 20 responses, not necessarily because there's a flame war going on in it.