Reply #48: That's the thing, more people weren't living better lives

[MadHound]

Some were living waaaaay better lives, others, much worse lives, and most were simply treading water.

And no, my take on the bills that I mentioned is not subjective. The Telecom Act did indeed constrict the media voices down to a handful, welfare reform did hurt the poor, the repeal of Glas-Steagal did enable rampant exploitation by the financial sector, which in turn led to our present financial crises. These aren't subjective, the number and data is out there, I suggest that you go look. Kevin Phillips and Howard Zinn are a good couple of places to start.

Sorry, but you're simply buying into the Clinton spin machine. Was he better than Bush, certainly, hell Nixon was better than Bush(and I thought that I would ever say anybody was better than Nixon). However that doesn't make Clinton into the second coming of Kennedy or Roosevelt. As I said earlier, Clinton was simply a corporate controlled president who passed legislation favorable to those who supported him, financial and corporate interests. That is the harsh reality of the matter and you can choose to disbelieve it if you want to, but that still won't change the facts.

Oh, and do you think NAFTA was a panacea for this country? Devastating our manufacturing sector, kicking off an era of outsourcing madness. Hell, I and many others like me spent good money to receive an education in a particular field only to find it outsourced to India or China. Whoopsie, there goes that tuition down the drain.

Oh, and what about Iraq, and those 500,000 dead innocents whose lives were snuffed thanks to Clinton's policies on sanctions and thrice weekly bombing runs? Do you honestly think that was a good thing?

Believe what you want, wallow in nostalgia if you choose, but I prefer to live in the reality based world.