Reply #56: fuck the kind of twisting of words you're engaging in. it's truly

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despicable. I consider zell miller to be way on the right and Lieberman to be a war nut who's far right stance on foreign policy completely overshadows his support for traditional liberal positions on such things as choice. I do not consider either of them to be centrists. And I certainly never said or hinted that I did. You pulled that out of your own dark and odiferous cavity. congratulations.

To answer your question: No. First off, Lieberman is not a democrat and Zell Miller isn't in the Senate. Beyond that, I'm talking about how people like Mark Warner and Jeanne Shaheen and Mark Udall will help move the Senate closer to achieving progressive legislation. Clue for the clueless: 49 democrats and 2 independants voting to organize with the democrats is what is known as a razor thin majority, and yes as everyone with a brain knows, that has an impact on what they can do.

Full disclosure: I have mixed feelings about Lieberman voting to organize with the dems. Half the time I want the dems to tell him to go fuck himself.. and then I think about Barbara Boxer having to hand the gavel back to Inhofe, or Arlen Specter taking the gavel from Pat Leahy, or Biden losing his chairmanship. So yeah, I'm conflicted on that one. And that's one reason why I do think voting more dem senators in next year is vital.