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Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:22 AM by mrone2
and he came out on the right side of the argument, but if changing his mind on abortion is the best mud you can sling at Kucinich I'd say he's in a pretty damn good position on the issues.
Now as for Clinton, Obama, Edwards, or Webb or any of the other DLC Democrats, you cannot look at their records and call them "Centrist", at least not with a straight face anyway. They are all Right leaning and only thinly distinguishable from their Republican counterparts.
I see no sense in justifying your centrist comment by insisting we Compare her votes only on those issues where she differs from Republicans, and ignore the many positions where she is in lock step with them. You even chose to completely brush off the other "non-foreign policy" positions I pointed out as if I had not even raised them.
I have no problem with your supporting Hillary if that is your chosen candidate. What I do have a problem with is a misrepresentation of her position and of her politics in a venue where folks might read it and attach some credence to it. Hillary is clearly NOT a "Centrist", she is a Conservative DLC Democrat, and as such she is in step with the neo-con Republican agenda, and effectively to the Right of 70% of this Nation.
For 70% of the Nation, Kucinich IS the "Centrist" candidate, and all the other Democratic wannabees, exclusive of Gravel, are to the right of his Centrist positions, and pretty much fall into the Republican camp of ideals.
The facts, the candidate voting records and the declared positions of hundreds of thousands of Americans in these blind-taste-test candidate polls clearly support my assertion that Kucinich is the "Centrist" candidate for an overwhelming majority of Americans, and the other Democratic candidates fall clearly to the right of that vast majority.
If you can look at the Hillary campaign, and declare her positions to be centrist to you, then you are clearly not amongst the 70% of average Americans in your ideals. If you overlook Hillary's positions and stances on issues such as Foreign Policy, the Patriot Act, Trade Agreements, the Bankruptcy Bill, etc. where she is in lock-step with the Republican agenda so that you can call her "Centrist", then what value is there in your claim ? As Bill Maher once said "Why buy the Raisin Bran if you're going to pick out all the raisins".
I proudly support Kucinich because he actually does represent the vast majority of Americans on virtually all the issues, and that is because he actually "listens" to his base of constituents as a legislator should. I don't want another Republican in the White House, but I also do not want a DLC Republican-Lite candidate in the White House to the same degree. If we go that route we will only garner more of the same that we have right now, and may prove the end of our Democracy.
For me, I desire change....REAL change...and as such, I support that little guy from Ohio's 10th district.
Kucinich 08...Right Then...Right Now...Right For America :applause:
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